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Old 09-22-2011, 12:58 PM   #1161
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Wow! If thats true, simply WOW.
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:58 PM   #1162
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<Media> Scientists create travel greater than the speed of light <Media>
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:12 PM   #1163
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Yeah I was going to post that, and also note that that's about the best science article by the media I've read in a long time in that they didn't blow it out of proportion or anything.

I hear it's a six sigma result which isn't likely a statistical blip; it's either a real discovery or (more likely) a systematic error.
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:13 PM   #1164
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Wow! If thats true, simply WOW.
No kidding, I kind of hope it is true, the implications for light not being the fastest speed are huge. Hopefully some people are working on repeating it.
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Old 09-22-2011, 02:30 PM   #1165
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If true, remember CP was the place you first heard about the revelation that will redirect the path of human society.

Very exciting news if true!
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Old 09-22-2011, 03:29 PM   #1166
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If true, remember CP was the place you first heard about the revelation that will redirect the path of human society.

Very exciting news if true!
Actually, I read about it on Ars Technica first.

An interesting thing from the ars article:
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Fermilab's MINOS experiment has also measured the speed of neutrinos that are produced on-site near Chicago, then sent to a detector in a mine in Minnesota. "MINOS also measured a faster-than-light value of the neutrino speed," MINOS co-spokesperson Jenny Thomas told Ars, "but the errors were so big we dismissed it."
Perhaps they weren't errors?
http://arstechnica.com/science/news/...than-light.ars

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After accounting for all the sources of error, the people running the OPERA experiment expect that their measurements may be off by as much as 10 nanoseconds. The neutrinos got there 60 nanoseconds ahead of when we'd expect them to arrive if they were moving at the speed of light.

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The researchers claim to have measured the 730-kilometre trip between CERN and its detector to within 20 centimetres. They can measure the time of the trip to within 10 nanoseconds, and they have seen the effect in more than 16,000 events measured over the past two years. Given all this, they believe the result has a significance of six-sigma — the physicists' way of saying it is certainly correct.
http://www.nature.com/news/2011/1109....2011.554.html
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Old 09-23-2011, 06:52 AM   #1167
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This needs to be bumped.
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Old 09-25-2011, 10:50 AM   #1168
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CFI put out a great article today about the recent news on the faster than light particle and how we skeptics and scientists react to the story.

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I mention this because one of the most common charges leveled against skeptics and scientists is that they refuse to acknowledge the existence of paranormal phenomenon (psychic abilities, ghosts, extraterrestrial visitors, etc.) because it would destroy their worldview. Skeptics and scientists, they say, are deeply personally and professional invested in defending the scientific "status quo." This claim is heard over and over again, often from New Age writers, UFO buffs, and the like.
It is, of course, a myth. The scientists and researchers who are skeptical of the new faster than light claims are not skeptical because accepting that Einstein was wrong about something would lead to a nervous breakdown, or that their whole worldview would crumble beneath them, or that they would have to accept that science doesn't know everything. The reason scientists are skeptical is because the new study contradicts all previous experiments. That's what good science does: When you do a study or experiment-especially one whose results conflict with earlier conclusions, you study it closely and question it before accepting the results.
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What has been the reaction from scientists? "Burn the witch, this is heresy and cannot be true?" No, it's, "Well, that's interesting... Let's take a closer look at the experiment to make sure the results are valid."
Furthermore, the very fact that this experiment was conducted in the first place proves that scientists are hardly afraid of challenging the dominant scientific beliefs and paradigms. If scientists were truly reluctant to rock the scientific boat ("Maybe we shouldn't do this because we need preserve Einstein's legacy"), they wouldn't have done the study. In science, those who disprove dominant theories are rewarded, not punished. Disproving one of Einstein's best-known predictions would earn the scientists a place in the history books, if not a Nobel prize.

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/blog...-skeptic_myth/
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Old 09-25-2011, 11:01 AM   #1169
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CFI put out a great article today about the recent news on the faster than light particle and how we skeptics and scientists react to the story.




http://www.centerforinquiry.net/blog...-skeptic_myth/
I think that if Einstein were still alive, he would have supported running this experiment and then found the results equally intriguing. He always questioned the status quo and I believe that he would encourage others to do so as well, even against his own theories.
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Old 09-25-2011, 04:12 PM   #1170
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Taking a break to pull something out of the WTF? file:

A discovery where human skin was combined with spider silk creates skin that can stop a bullet!

The research could have uses across the board, but would also probably open up a lot of ethical dilemnas.

http://www.reuters.com/video/2011/09...eoChannel=2602
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Old 09-25-2011, 04:30 PM   #1171
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Holy crap do I want.
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Old 09-25-2011, 04:42 PM   #1172
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Crazy that it started off as an art project!
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Old 09-26-2011, 12:39 AM   #1173
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http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1134/...Worldwide.html

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Old 09-26-2011, 12:43 AM   #1174
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Are you just stirring the pot Mr. PH.D?

Maybe you missed the title, general discussions are elsewhere.
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Old 09-26-2011, 01:02 AM   #1175
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did you ignore the word science in the thread title? conspiracies go in mikey's general direction
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Old 09-26-2011, 08:49 AM   #1176
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Taking a break to pull something out of the WTF? file:

A discovery where human skin was combined with spider silk creates skin that can stop a bullet!

The research could have uses across the board, but would also probably open up a lot of ethical dilemnas.

http://www.reuters.com/video/2011/09...eoChannel=2602
Peter Parker knew about that in the 1960s.
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Next step towards mind reading?

http://news.yahoo.com/scientists-tur...083203371.html
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Possibly habitable planet discovered 36 light years distant orbiting sun-like star. It is 3.6 times the size of Earth, with gravity of 1.4g and a temperature of 25 Celsius at the top of its atmosphere. Surface temperature and atmospheric makeup are not yet available.

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That is incredibly bad-ass...creating a movie from your dreams, boy would I love to see some of the stuff I thought up!
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Old 09-28-2011, 07:58 AM   #1180
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Potential vaccine for AIDS

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