Vancouver is No Good 3

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

It's the cancuks. Of course it will be in game on HNIC.

Hope it's not during the intermission. Those poor kids. Those poor, innocent kids.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

The tax differences are way overblown, according to multiple NHLers and executives, especially when you factor in cost of living and exchange rate.

For example, maybe they’re taxed more in Canada than Florida. But they get paid in US dollars, so a $2M home in Canada is only going to cost them $1.4M of their actual salary.

Allan walsh who is a player agent says as much as well

Players in Canada can set up a Retirement Compensation Agreement (RCA) and limit their tax liability to a flat 20%. With sound tax advisors, a NHL player can actually pay the same or less tax in Canada than he will Florida or Vegas

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[afc wimbledon]

a vast amount of offshore tax law pertains to the amount of time spent in Canada, an NHL player in a Canadian team spends a huge amount of time 'working' in the US every season and then can chose to spend the off season there, I have no doubt a decent lawyer can set it up so a player is domiciled in the US while playing for a Canadian team, hell in Vancouver they can live in Point Roberts and just commute into Canada for games and practices

[dirk diggler]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Allan walsh who is a player agent says as much as well
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i wasnt aware of that. thought it was a bigger difference.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Allan walsh who is a player agent says as much as well
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This might go away. Revenue Canada going after some athletes.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

i wasnt aware of that. thought it was a bigger difference.

I think it was a bigger difference when kids would get their dad to be their agent. Player now have dedicated teams covering all aspects of life.

[CalgaryJay]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I thought that they would show a lot of improvement over last season, and they do have a few elite-level players to continue building around. Hughes, Pettersson and Demko mainly. They made some decent moves in the off-season too.


However, I do think that they will also come back down to earth. Flames and Oilers will probably not continue losing this badly, and Vancouver probably won't continue winning this often. It is definitely a great start for them, and this is their best chance in a while at making playoffs. Will be interesting to see if they fall back down, or if they continue finding ways to win. It is an impressive start, whether or not you want to say it was lucky.



I still hate them though.

The Canucks are starting to look like the old Canucks. Edmonton started the game outshooting them 18-2 or something crazy.
Dallas also started the game with a point blank shot on Demko who made a miracle save.
All the warts are currently being covered by Demko and super timely goals that are unsustainable.

Like you can't start slow and have Demko making miracle saves all season while cashing in on very few opportunities against sieves.

At one point, that run ends.

I do feel like they built a solid enough lead points wise to think they'll make the playoffs but if we ever face them, we need to look at what the oilers did the first 10 minutes.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by CalgaryJay

I do feel like they built a solid enough lead points wise to think they'll make the playoffs but if we ever face them, we need to look at what the oilers did the first 10 minutes.

Play like your lives and loved ones depend on you winning?


The Canucks are not as good as their record right now. But your examples being from a game they shut out their opponent and a game they finished by outshooting their opponent over the final 45-50 minutes of the game are not the best choices.

[redmile04]

Originally Posted by CalgaryJay

Like you can't start slow and have Demko making miracle saves all season while cashing in on very few opportunities against sieves.

Goaltending makes a huge difference, he is a very good goalie that's just been hurt and played on poor defenses. The canucks has a run in 2020 and nearly made the playoffs in 2022 with a worse defense than now, their offense and goaltending hasnt been the issue. Defense has- which is still an issue but improved.

They are a good team, not as good as their record is but i am not surprised that they will be in the playoffs this year, they have improved their problem areas moreso than the past few years under benning.

[redmile04]

Originally Posted by Icantwhisper

Canuck and Flames have met once in the playoffs since 2004, it was 8 years ago, weird thing to remember

Calgary does not win too many series, its a very easy thing to remember, not weird to me.

[eddly]

A fun question for everyone. Who is the best Canadian player on the Vancouver Canucks?

I find this interesting... the lack of Canadian players. It is interesting, I am not inferring anything negative by bringing this up. Why are so many Americans happy to play in Vancouver? Are they able to brush off the Canadian media pressure better than a Canadian player?

To answer my question. I would say the answer is Tyler Myers (he has dual citizenship).

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by eddly

A fun question for everyone. Who is the best Canadian player on the Vancouver Canucks?

I find this interesting... the lack of Canadian players. It is interesting, I am not inferring anything negative by bringing this up. Why are so many Americans happy to play in Vancouver? Are they able to brush off the Canadian media pressure better than a Canadian player?

To answer my question. I would say the answer is Tyler Myers (he has dual citizenship).

Pizza guy!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by eddly

A fun question for everyone. Who is the best Canadian player on the Vancouver Canucks?

I find this interesting... the lack of Canadian players. It is interesting, I am not inferring anything negative by bringing this up. Why are so many Americans happy to play in Vancouver? Are they able to brush off the Canadian media pressure better than a Canadian player?

To answer my question. I would say the answer is Tyler Myers (he has dual citizenship).

Every American I've ever met that's been there likes Vancouver. They figure it's warm enough compared to other Canadian cities, clean (I guess compared to US cities) and attractive (all the parks plys ocean plus mountainsides). I would also guess hockey players figure it's more low key than Montreal/Toronto/Calgary/Edmonton as far as scrutiny goes.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by eddly

A fun question for everyone. Who is the best Canadian player on the Vancouver Canucks?

I find this interesting... the lack of Canadian players. It is interesting, I am not inferring anything negative by bringing this up. Why are so many Americans happy to play in Vancouver? Are they able to brush off the Canadian media pressure better than a Canadian player?

To answer my question. I would say the answer is Tyler Myers (he has dual citizenship).

Hah, never noticed that. Who else is there? Beauvillier? I think Soucy is Canadian.

[Blaster86]

Beau, Soucy, Myers, DiGiuseppe, Juulsen and I can't think of anyone else after that

[eddly]

Add Brisebrois, Friedman and Studnicka.

I wonder if this is the most American or international team ever for a Canadian team.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

PDO darlings.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by eddly

Add Brisebrois, Friedman and Studnicka.

I wonder if this is the most American or international team ever for a Canadian team.

We've never had a huge canadian contingent

Usually swedes

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

PDO dahlings.

The Zsa Zsa Gabor's of the NHL.

[jayswin]

The Canucks are actually very good. The Flames are not very good, at all.