The Walking Dead TV show only thread- Part II ***See spoiler rules in first post***

[blankall]

The weird thing is they've actually had dear (and other similar animals) in the show before, and they did not nearly that bad. They decided to do some weird artsy episode that focused on the dear, and it looked like crap?

I get why the show wants to change up the pace hear and there, but this episode was weird. I actually thought some of their previous artsy episodes were some of their best. For example, where Carol kills the kids or where Tyrese dies.

The current writers need to stick to the comic material. Whenever they diverge too much you end up with this non-sensical crap.

The leader of the Scavengers (yes that's their name) apparently has a Scottish accent. Maybe after casting they realized she was incapable of doing a proper North American accent and came up with the stupid speech pattern?

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by blankall

The leader of the Scavengers (yes that's their name) apparently has a Scottish accent. Maybe after casting they realized she was incapable of doing a proper North American accent and came up with the stupid speech pattern?

Don't think it would matter if she had a Scottish accent. All different kinds of accents in North America.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by blankall

The weird thing is they've actually had dear (and other similar animals) in the show before, and they did not nearly that bad. They decided to do some weird artsy episode that focused on the dear, and it looked like crap?

I get why the show wants to change up the pace hear and there, but this episode was weird. I actually thought some of their previous artsy episodes were some of their best. For example, where Carol kills the kids or where Tyrese dies.

The current writers need to stick to the comic material. Whenever they diverge too much you end up with this non-sensical crap.

The leader of the Scavengers (yes that's their name) apparently has a Scottish accent. Maybe after casting they realized she was incapable of doing a proper North American accent and came up with the stupid speech pattern?

Are you doing this on purpose? It's killing me inside.

[Fire]

They must have had very little budget for that episode. They had the awkward moment where Michonne oddly walks behind some sort of building before killing two walkers out of sight. Then her next few kills they didn't clearly show the kills on camera, obviously to avoid having to do the special effects.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Fire

They must have had very little budget for that episode. They had the awkward moment where Michonne oddly walks behind some sort of building before killing two walkers out of sight. Then her next few kills they didn't clearly show the kills on camera, obviously to avoid having to do the special effects.

I noticed that walker Rosita killed with the bloated face was a lot fancier than regular walkers. Maybe they went over budget on that?

[Machiavelli]

The one that looked like Jabba the Hutt?

[Wormius]

I don't think the walkers are even needed at this point in the show. They are easily defensible and no longer pose any authentic risk to anyone that has survived this long.

I am genuinely curious if the walkers were removed altogether from the show, how long it would take before the audience noticed or if anybody would care. Its not that they can't still be interesting in some ways, but they are not really the threat they were when all of this was new.

[djsFlames]

I was secretly hoping female Jabba the Hutt would get to feast on Rosita before she did something dumb.

Now she's gonna do something dumb.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Wormius

I don't think the walkers are even needed at this point in the show. They are easily defensible and no longer pose any authentic risk to anyone that has survived this long.

I am genuinely curious if the walkers were removed altogether from the show, how long it would take before the audience noticed or if anybody would care. Its not that they can't still be interesting in some ways, but they are not really the threat they were when all of this was new.

No, I disagree. They are an X-factor that always plays into the movements of people in the groups. If you're talking about small groups of walkers, yes it's easy. Large herds are a significant obstacle, and it forces them to alter plans, or perhaps avoid situations entirely.

If you get careless, the walkers get you. You have to be ever vigilant against them just to stay alive. It's a factor that plays into every person's psyche. If not for the walkers, the world would already be rebuilding into what it was before. Since that isn't happening, guys like Negan are ruling the post-apocalyptic world with brute force.

It's still important, just not the driving factor for decision making.

[Erick Estrada]

I tend to believe if this scenario was to play out there would be a military presence as I'm sure a lot of important political and wealthy would have been sent underground during the outbreak and now that things are manageable I would imagine that government officials and military would have surfaced to take inventory of the situation. Maybe that's the next direction for the show?

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Wormius

I don't think the walkers are even needed at this point in the show. They are easily defensible and no longer pose any authentic risk to anyone that has survived this long.

I am genuinely curious if the walkers were removed altogether from the show, how long it would take before the audience noticed or if anybody would care. Its not that they can't still be interesting in some ways, but they are not really the threat they were when all of this was new.

I think this is actually a major strength of the show. They've made the human interactions compelling enough that the walkers are serving their purpose as a plot device.

The show is supposed to be about the way humans interact after the breakdown of society. The walkers create a plot device that keeps society broken down. It's actually a pretty good one too. As the walkers are irrational and continuing. I can't really think of any other conditions that would produce the same result.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

It's what zombie fiction is always supposed to be about, ultimately. You create a world where the most horrible monsters are trying to kill you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and human beings are still the greatest threat to each others' wellbeing. It's a comment on human nature. Think about Dawn of the Dead, Night of the Living Dead, 28 Days Later... who are the worst monsters, the biggest threat, who does the most damage to the protagonists? It's never the zombies.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I tend to believe if this scenario was to play out there would be a military presence as I'm sure a lot of important political and wealthy would have been sent underground during the outbreak and now that things are manageable I would imagine that government officials and military would have surfaced to take inventory of the situation. Maybe that's the next direction for the show?

They tried to deal with that a few times..They've shown remnants of military outposts in this show and in FTWD. The military always seems to break down due to selfish and/or totalitarian attitudes. The military also seems to rely heavily on communications and technology, which is a problem in a post-apocalyptic world.

Another major issue with just hiding away and bunkering up is that anyone who dies becomes a zombie. So you cannot protect yourself just by hiding away. An outbreak can happen anytime, even within an isolated group.

[Machiavelli]

nvm

[Torture]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

It's what zombie fiction is always supposed to be about, ultimately. You create a world where the most horrible monsters are trying to kill you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and human beings are still the greatest threat to each others' wellbeing. It's a comment on human nature. Think about Dawn of the Dead, Night of the Living Dead, 28 Days Later... who are the worst monsters, the biggest threat, who does the most damage to the protagonists? It's never the zombies.

That's true, but the problem with Walking Dead is that the zombies are no longer a credible threat, except when it's convenient.
95% of the time you can kill a walker with about 0 effort. 5% of the time omg they're so dangerous look out Rick might die!

Which brings me to the other thing with that episode. Seriously, pretending Rick is dead? This show just loves to insult it's viewers.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Torture

That's true, but the problem with Walking Dead is that the zombies are no longer a credible threat, except when it's convenient.

I think I would just like to see a little more exploration done. The zombies aren't serious threats anymore, it would be interesting to see the writers bring some life back into them, because now they are just background noise that are used simply for gross-out effect.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Torture

That's true, but the problem with Walking Dead is that the zombies are no longer a credible threat, except when it's convenient.
95% of the time you can kill a walker with about 0 effort. 5% of the time omg they're so dangerous look out Rick might die!

Which brings me to the other thing with that episode. Seriously, pretending Rick is dead? This show just loves to insult it's viewers.

It's pretty obvious it was a plot point to give Michonne a reason to doubt/change her view on the whole Negan situation.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Yeah I don't think that moment of tension was for us so much as Michonne. Her reaction to the potential death was for the benefit of the audience, not the potential death itself. It seemed so obvious that it was the deer they were eating that it wouldn't have fooled an eight year old, and they showed us the deer beforehand - they didn't have to do that. Usually when the show tries to trick its audience into thinking a main character died, they use camera tricks to make it look as clear as possible that they're toast and leave very little to the imagination - think Glenn and the dumpster.

[Max Cow Disease]

There's a sizeable slew of characters that I simply do not like in this show. Rosita, Tara, Coral (not to be confused with Carol), Carol (not to be confused with Coral), Gabriel, and the list goes on. Even Rick and Michonne are somehow rubbing me the wrong way these days. Characters I currently have somewhat of an affinity for are some of the off-the-wallers like Eugene (haven't always, but he's growing on me), Jesus, the King, and then of course Negan and Steven Oggs' character. Darryl's gained my respect since seemingly emerging from the "Easy Street" incident more or less mentally intact.

Speaking of Coral, where's he these days? Is Riggs in school or something, or has his acting prowess garnered him a restrictively high salary that keeps him off most episodes? I'm trying to remember where we saw him last- wasn't he still being groomed as Negan's boy-protege back at Saviour HQ?

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

It's also been a while since Maggie had a scene.