08-17-2014, 12:58 PM
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#1162
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Finger Cookin
Is there any reason to think that this blogger has any information that Hayes is demanding an NHL roster spot? Or is it just speculation?
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Speculation. Complete speculation.
But it will still turn into a truth to some on here.
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08-17-2014, 01:01 PM
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#1163
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Field near Field, AB
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Bill Arnold @BillDaHurricane · Aug 16
Philly bound to bring the band back together @johngaudreau03 @smithq2742 @dlinell105 @michaelsit18 @Cspiro15 #LNC
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08-17-2014, 01:25 PM
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#1164
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgarywinning
Bill Arnold @BillDaHurricane · Aug 16
Philly bound to bring the band back together @johngaudreau03 @smithq2742 @dlinell105 @michaelsit18 @Cspiro15 #LNC
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not sure what your point is?
that tweet says Arnold is meeting up with some former BC teammates in Philly.
Hayes and his agent are in Boston listening to nhl offers
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08-17-2014, 01:44 PM
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#1165
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First Line Centre
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The only way we'll ever know if there's truth to speculation that he is looking for a guaranteed roster spot is if he signs with Edmonton.
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08-17-2014, 01:55 PM
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#1166
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary
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Kids who have never played in the NHL and are expecting a guaranteed roster spot kind of tick me off. I am not a fan of the college free agent rule and don't think he is a fit under the current management philosophy of earn your way through to the flames.
Last edited by RM14; 08-17-2014 at 02:39 PM.
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08-17-2014, 02:01 PM
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#1167
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
The Blackhawks made the decision to sign 2 college free agents last spring (Matt Carey and Trevor van Riemsdyk). If they were at the contract limit, it was their own decision.
The Eagles were eliminated on Thursday April 10. The Blackhawks played a game in Nashville (2 hour flight from Philly) on Saturday April 12. If they were truly motivated they could have gotten Hayes into that game to burn an ELC year.
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Just fixing your post sureLoss.  Can't say that happens very often. Ever?
( April, not August)
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08-17-2014, 02:39 PM
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#1168
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GOAT!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
not sure what your point is?
that tweet says Arnold is meeting up with some former BC teammates in Philly.
Hayes and his agent are in Boston listening to nhl offers
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I don't understand what this is all about. He was just posting a tweet from Bill Arnold, why are you asking what his point is?
Also, where are you getting that Hayes is in Boston right now? Last I read he was in Philly, which makes Arnold's tweet pretty interesting.
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08-17-2014, 02:39 PM
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#1169
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RM14
Kids who have never played in the NHL and are expecting a guaranteed roster spot kind of tick me off. I am not a fan of the college free agent rule and don't think he is a fit under the current management philosophy of earn your was through to the flames.
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The problem with this is that it's pure conjecture supposing that he's only willing to sign with someone who guarantees him a roster spot. Happens all the time on this forum that a couple people allude to something and all of a sudden it's picked up as a fact with posts like this throwing out definitive judgements based on it.
There's a difference between looking at teams with more opportunity at a given position and saying you'll only sign there if you're promised a starting role on the big club.
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08-17-2014, 02:53 PM
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#1170
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
I don't understand what this is all about. He was just posting a tweet from Bill Arnold, why are you asking what his point is?
Also, where are you getting that Hayes is in Boston right now? Last I read he was in Philly, which makes Arnold's tweet pretty interesting.
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Hayes is in Boston right now with his agent.
Are teams doing in person meetings with his agent without Hayes being present? What would be the point when they could do the same over the phone.
Last edited by sureLoss; 08-17-2014 at 02:59 PM.
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08-17-2014, 03:13 PM
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#1171
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
...where are you getting that Hayes is in Boston right now? Last I read he was in Philly, which makes Arnold's tweet pretty interesting.
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What's interesting about it? His tweet has nothing to do with the Flames, with Hayes, or with hockey.
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08-17-2014, 03:44 PM
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#1172
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Franchise Player
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tensions are high on here...
Hayes won't sign with the Flames.
- money the same everywhere
- will have to earn a spot on any team regardless of RW depth
- teams change every year, joining his team mates from college means nothing (i.e did he seek out a team where he could be reunited with his pee wee team mates? of course not)
-- team mates could fail to crack roster
-- team mates could be traded
- his home town team is contending for silverware and has the same sort of RW holes as other teams rumoured to be contenders for his services
therefore he will sign with the Bruins or another contending team
goal is to play for a winner, right?
Calgary is not a winner
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08-17-2014, 03:48 PM
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#1173
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
tensions are high on here...
Hayes won't sign with the Flames.
- money the same everywhere
- will have to earn a spot on any team regardless of RW depth
- teams change every year, joining his team mates from college means nothing (i.e did he seek out a team where he could be reunited with his pee wee team mates? of course not)
-- team mates could fail to crack roster
-- team mates could be traded
- his home town team is contending for silverware and has the same sort of RW holes as other teams rumoured to be contenders for his services
therefore he will sign with the Bruins or another contending team
goal is to play for a winner, right?
Calgary is not a winner
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Not yet.
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08-17-2014, 03:55 PM
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#1174
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
tensions are high on here...
Hayes won't sign with the Flames.
- money the same everywhere
- will have to earn a spot on any team regardless of RW depth
- teams change every year, joining his team mates from college means nothing (i.e did he seek out a team where he could be reunited with his pee wee team mates? of course not)
-- team mates could fail to crack roster
-- team mates could be traded
- his home town team is contending for silverware and has the same sort of RW holes as other teams rumoured to be contenders for his services
therefore he will sign with the Bruins or another contending team
goal is to play for a winner, right?
Calgary is not a winner
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You say this like it's a cut and dry fact but you have no idea what Hayes values and what he sees as being best for his career. Why did Stinktown win the Justin Schultz sweepstakes instead of Philly or Pittsburgh or Detroit or any number of contenders at the time that had holes to fill on the back end? We simply have no idea how the negotiations played out. And it's the same case here. You're making this issue way too black and white.
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08-17-2014, 04:12 PM
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#1175
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
You say this like it's a cut and dry fact but you have no idea what Hayes values and what he sees as being best for his career. Why did Stinktown win the Justin Schultz sweepstakes instead of Philly or Pittsburgh or Detroit or any number of contenders at the time that had holes to fill on the back end? We simply have no idea how the negotiations played out. And it's the same case here. You're making this issue way too black and white.
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Well duh, you are right that he does not confide in me. Congrats for figuring that out on your own.
Have you figured out that this is a site where people share their opinions yet?
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08-17-2014, 04:27 PM
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#1176
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Truculent!
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MOD EDIT: Knock it off. Don't bring your feuds from other sites on to our board.
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08-17-2014, 04:48 PM
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#1177
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quite possible if Calgary is one of the finalists, that he comes to Calgary for a tour. Not sure if he has had much opportunity to visit Calgary in the past.
Perhaps we can get strykersteve to stake out the Arrivals at YYC.
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08-17-2014, 05:31 PM
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#1178
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Franchise Player
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Kevin Hayes won't sign with the Blackhawks
Quote:
Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
Well duh, you are right that he does not confide in me. Congrats for figuring that out on your own.
Have you figured out that this is a site where people share their opinions yet? 
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Neat.
Are you always this angry and defensive?
Last edited by mrdonkey; 08-17-2014 at 05:36 PM.
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08-17-2014, 05:44 PM
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#1179
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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Worst-case scenario, the Flames still have the reigning Hobey Baker winner and some guy that's really good at two-way college hockey.
And Gillies.
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08-17-2014, 05:45 PM
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#1180
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Quite possible if Calgary is one of the finalists, that he comes to Calgary for a tour. Not sure if he has had much opportunity to visit Calgary in the past.
Perhaps we can get strykersteve to stake out the Arrivals at YYC.
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Does Steve hang out on the west side of the airport, that's where Conny parks his plane!
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