11-27-2023, 10:25 AM
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#11681
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Bingo
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Looks legit!!!!
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11-27-2023, 10:33 AM
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#11682
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: still in edmonton
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Pretty sure that's a fake account
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11-27-2023, 10:35 AM
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#11684
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Scoring Winger
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I wonder if a team like Dallas would take a chance on Dube. Not sure where he would fit into their lineup but Dube is consistently buried on the Flames depth chart, and he's been a consistent thorn in their side in past playoffs. He's got RFA rights, so maybe at least a 2nd rounder in return?
Not trying to run the guy out of town, but IMO the other big consideration is we have a big crop of small sized guys in the top-9 (Dube/Mang/Pelletier/Coronato/Coleman) and he would be the guy I'd be most comfortable trading just because of age and consistency. Of course Coleman would also be ideal but I get the feeling the Flames love him and will want him to stay even through the retool and play with Backlund until their contracts are up.
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11-27-2023, 10:37 AM
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#11685
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Yup, HINC instead of HNIC in the user name. Thanks Musk, you ####.
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11-27-2023, 10:40 AM
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#11686
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Dammit!
My bad ... I'll pull it.
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11-27-2023, 11:07 AM
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#11687
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Freeway
Especially at his price point, there are a lot of teams that would probably love a Blake Coleman. He and Backlund are so valuable to the Flames. Probably could be even moreso if the Flames move on from their UFAs and bring in more youth.
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Dallas seems like such a natural fit (for all of Coleman, Dallas, and the Flames) - they could use a speedy, middle 6 play driver that's strong defensively.
Flames would likely have to take back Radek Faksa, but if they would give up some good pieces I'd be all for it.
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 11-27-2023 at 11:12 AM.
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11-27-2023, 11:11 AM
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#11688
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Bingo
Dammit!
My bad ... I'll pull it.
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Though in his latest pod he seems to think Detroit is the front runner.
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11-27-2023, 11:26 AM
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#11689
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Dallas seems like such a natural fit (for all of Coleman, Dallas, and the Flames) - they could use a speedy, middle 6 play driver that's strong defensively.
Flames would likely have to take back Radek Faksa, but if they would give up some good pieces I'd be all for it.
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I would trade Coleman for Joe McDonnell who's their director of amateur scouting. That organization continues to find players in the drat and they may be the first team to go seamlessly from old core to young core without a rebuild.
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11-27-2023, 11:31 AM
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#11690
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I would trade Coleman for Joe McDonnell who's their director of amateur scouting. That organization continues to find players in the drat and they may be the first team to go seamlessly from old core to young core without a rebuild.
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Outside of that incredible Heiskenan/Robertson/Oettinger year, who do they have lately (I'm not much of a draft/prospect follower). Johnston?
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11-27-2023, 11:35 AM
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#11691
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
You understand that every team REQUIRES middle 6 forwards right? He costs $2.3M, and using the 10 points for every million (admittedly weak) rule, he is fair value.
Why do fans have to run players out of town all the time?
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As I said before I am absolutely fine with Dube at $2.3M because that is fair value, my issue is when he is going to want a pay raise coming up as a free agent. Anything over $3M AAV and I would rather they moved on.
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11-27-2023, 11:35 AM
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#11692
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I would trade Coleman for Joe McDonnell who's their director of amateur scouting. That organization continues to find players in the drat and they may be the first team to go seamlessly from old core to young core without a rebuild.
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And based on The Athletic rankings a week ago the Flames drafting is right up there with them.
Flames biggest problem is we haven't had enough picks and traded too many away.
(Also that our best players left instead of sticking around which made things tougher too. We'd probably be talking differently of the Flames if Tkachuk/Gaudreau were still around and we were graduating guys like Pelletier, Coronato, Zary, and Pospisil to come play with them).
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11-27-2023, 11:40 AM
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#11693
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
As I said before I am absolutely fine with Dube at $2.3M because that is fair value, my issue is when he is going to want a pay raise coming up as a free agent. Anything over $3M AAV and I would rather they moved on.
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Yes, his next contract is going to be interesting. But he is an RFA and he is currently on pace for 29 points, so he isn't going to get a big raise. Two years at $3M-ish is probably the ballpark
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11-27-2023, 11:47 AM
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#11695
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Outside of that incredible Heiskenan/Robertson/Oettinger year, who do they have lately (I'm not much of a draft/prospect follower). Johnston?
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Dallas also has Mavrik Bourque, Logan Stankoven, and Jacob Pettersen.
Their drafting looks good, but over the same timeframe (since the Hintz draft), the Flames drafted Andersson, Kylington, Mangiapane, Fox, Dube, Tkachuk, Ruzicka, Valimaki, Coronato, Zary, and Pelletier.
Dallas can keep Joe McConnell. Tod Button has done a great job with amateur scouting for the Flames and is not an issue for this franchise.
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11-27-2023, 11:48 AM
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#11696
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Outside of that incredible Heiskenan/Robertson/Oettinger year, who do they have lately (I'm not much of a draft/prospect follower). Johnston?
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Stankoven and Bourque will be fixtures in a middle six shortly. Although Dallas has not had much success with D lately.
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11-27-2023, 11:50 AM
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#11697
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by bigrangy
Stankoven and Bourque will be fixtures in a middle six shortly. Although Dallas has not had much success with D lately.
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Harley looks good.
Honka was a whiff for a pretty high pick.
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11-27-2023, 11:53 AM
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#11698
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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What is Conroy waiting for with Vladar? I'd rather have Oscar Dansk in there as backup. Get what you can for him and be done with it.
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11-27-2023, 11:55 AM
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#11699
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Outside of that incredible Heiskenan/Robertson/Oettinger year, who do they have lately (I'm not much of a draft/prospect follower). Johnston?
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Hintz with a late 2nd (49 OA).
Johnston at #23 OA, Stankoven at #27 and Harley at #18 are looking pretty good.
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11-27-2023, 12:02 PM
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#11700
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by boogerz
Dallas also has Mavrik Bourque, Logan Stankoven, and Jacob Pettersen.
Their drafting looks good, but over the same timeframe (since the Hintz draft), the Flames drafted Andersson, Kylington, Mangiapane, Fox, Dube, Tkachuk, Ruzicka, Valimaki, Coronato, Zary, and Pelletier.
Dallas can keep Joe McConnell. Tod Button has done a great job with amateur scouting for the Flames and is not an issue for this franchise.
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