2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Hard to judge, but I would imagine around $10M.

Petro got $8.8 million AAV.

I don't see Hamilton getting more than that. Especially if the cap stays flat once again.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Petro got $8.8 million AAV.

I don't see Hamilton getting more than that. Especially if the cap stays flat once again.

Pietrangelo was also 30 years old when he signed, while Hamilton will be 28 when he signs his new deal.

I’d also argue Hamilton is better than Pietrangelo.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Pietrangelo was also 30 years old when he signed, while Hamilton will be 28 when he signs his new deal.

I’d also argue Hamilton is better than Pietrangelo.

I guess we'll see.

[Strange Brew]

Cap is going to stay flat for another couple of years even with the US TV money.

Still at his age Dougie is going to command some big dollars. That is now two very strong seasons in a row, emerging as one of the best D in the game.

Real interesting to see how he plays in the playoffs this year.

[dino7c]

8.5+ for Dougie

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by dino7c

8.5+ for Dougie

7 years, 60m

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Monahan's play and contract is on negative approaching James Neal territory, a total useless player the last two years, in order to get rid of him the team would have to take on a bigger bum with more term and money like Johansen or Duchene

Monahan and Neal are 2 very interesting comparables. They’re both triggermen who lack pace in their game. Both roughly the same size. Defensively they leave a lot to be desired and they both need a speedy playmaker in order to hide their inability to create their own shot.

Personally, I’d like to know who’s idea it was to add Neal and why they thought a line of Gaudreau-Monahan-Neal was ever a good idea. Will go down as one of Treliving’s worst decisions in his entire tenure. It absolutely crippled his salary cap structure and left major holes in his lineup. Treliving shouldn’t scout any right wings ever again, ever.

Lazar = swing and a miss
Brouwer = swing and a big miss
Neal = swing and an even bigger miss

3 strikes and you’re out

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Monahan and Neal are 2 very interesting comparables. They’re both triggermen who lack pace in their game. Both roughly the same size. Defensively they leave a lot to be desired and they both need a speedy playmaker in order to hide their inability to create their own shot.

Personally, I’d like to know who’s idea it was to add Neal and why they thought a line of Gaudreau-Monahan-Neal was ever a good idea. Will go down as one of Treliving’s worst decisions in his entire tenure. It absolutely crippled his salary cap structure and left major holes in his lineup. Treliving shouldn’t scout any right wings ever again, ever.

Lazar = swing and a miss
Brouwer = swing and a big miss
Neal = swing and an even bigger miss

3 strikes and you’re out

Neal was the biggest mistake easily IMO. Someone didn’t do their homework and focussed only on his production and maybe size. No examination of either his off ice behaviour (which was not hard to find) or his game play. This story says to beware of him (albeit because it was thought he was seeking $7M):

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...-avoid-july-1/

I don’t recall what other RWs were available. In hindsight you could have rejigged with Bennett doing something different. The problem was that Lindholm filled the role too well.

[Lanny_McDonald]

7x$7.5.

[FlamesAddiction]

I just hate the fact that all this is happening in an expansion year. With teams needing to worry about protection lists, I don’t see too many that are going to be willing to make trades that end up adding contracts in return for picks and prospects. It really poor timing to start a rebuild. Add to that a flat cap and I think we are going to be handcuffed or accepting pennies on the dollar. Free agents are going to have little bargaining power as well so teams will probably look at that before trading.

[drewtastic]

Originally Posted by New Era

7x$7.5.

If this is the cost, and if the Flames can shed some salary (Gio-trade, Lucic-expansion draft, Monahan-some decent younger pieces/draft picks), is it worth taking a shot at Hamilton?

I'm warming up to the idea of bringing him back, which is why I asked the question in the first place...

Hamilton-Andersson
Tanev-Hanifin
Valimaki-Kylington/Mackey (?)

All of a sudden, there's decent depth on the blueline again, along with offensive upside. They could even re-sign Stone as a #7/8.

[Roof-Daddy]

Hamilton asked to be traded didn't he?

I assume he wouldn't be interested in signing with the Flames.

If by some chance he is interested in coming back, the Flames should definitely be in on that.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Monahan's play and contract is on negative approaching James Neal territory, a total useless player the last two years, in order to get rid of him the team would have to take on a bigger bum with more term and money like Johansen or Duchene

Funny you mention Duchene, Monahan is in a very similar situation as Duchene was in Colorado. Similar ages, production, contracts, etc.
Sakic managed to trade Duchene for a pretty hefty ransom, is that likely to happen with Monahan? unlikely but he doesn't have negative value.
That being said, if he needs surgery he should be getting it done now.

[Dude Where's Makar?]

I could see Minny and CBJ as potential trading partners who have multiple first rounders this draft.

Monahan would be a clear upgrade on Rask and Domi, who both might do better with a change of scenery.

Monahan + 2nd 2021 + 4th 2021

for

Domi + 1st (Tampa) + 1st (Leafs)

CBJ gets a big upgrade on Domi and still drafts in the top 7 of this years draft. We hope for a rebound in production from Domi and acquire much needed assets to restock the prospect cupboard.

[TheScorpion]

Rask shouldn't be a target. He's been playing with Kaprizov and Zuccarello all year and only has 20 points in 48 GP. And that's the best pace he's ever had in Minnesota.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Dude Where's Makar?

I could see Minny and CBJ as potential trading partners who have multiple first rounders this draft.

Monahan would be a clear upgrade on Rask and Domi, who both might do better with a change of scenery.

Monahan + 2nd 2021 + 4th 2021

for

Domi + 1st (Tampa) + 1st (Leafs)

CBJ gets a big upgrade on Domi and still drafts in the top 7 of this years draft. We hope for a rebound in production from Domi and acquire much needed assets to restock the prospect cupboard.

Maybe. While this is not an ideal year to win the lottery, later first rounders may have better value simply because the draft will be pretty fluid.

[Dude Where's Makar?]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Rask shouldn't be a target. He's been playing with Kaprizov and Zuccarello all year and only has 20 points in 48 GP. And that's the best pace he's ever had in Minnesota.

The idea was more or less based around acquiring two extra bullets in the first round of this draft. I understand both players mentioned above are well below Monahan's pedigree, but the assets I believe make it worth it.

[drewtastic]

Originally Posted by Dude Where's Makar?

I could see Minny and CBJ as potential trading partners who have multiple first rounders this draft.

Monahan would be a clear upgrade on Rask and Domi, who both might do better with a change of scenery.

Monahan + 2nd 2021 + 4th 2021

for

Domi + 1st (Tampa) + 1st (Leafs)

CBJ gets a big upgrade on Domi and still drafts in the top 7 of this years draft. We hope for a rebound in production from Domi and acquire much needed assets to restock the prospect cupboard.

Amazing username, FWIW.

[Dude Where's Makar?]

Originally Posted by drewtastic

Amazing username, FWIW.

I've been lurking for well over 10 years. Figured I shouldn't join without a good username lol

[TheScorpion]

I still think a Monahan/Reinhart deal makes sense.