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Old 11-06-2025, 12:32 PM   #11601
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I've always said the Flames have a core only Murray Edwards could love
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Old 11-06-2025, 12:35 PM   #11602
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What about Conroy's moves have been reactive?

I personally don't go ditch to ditch on media reports about the inner workings of any franchise. Could be true. Could be partially true. Could be completely made up by the media, or the Flames for value.

Better to see what actually happens then act like this is something new to fret over.
Markstrom, Toffoli, and Mangiapane deals were more pro-active.

Hanifin, Tanev, Lindholm more re-active to the way negotiations went.

Andersson he's been too re-active on IMO and that should have been done sooner.

Kadri and Coleman - it's been fine to this point but it's starting to reach the point where they might be too re-active. More so on Coleman than Kadri just because their is such a log jam at wing on this team and he's a guy they could move on from even though he is pretty awesome.
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Old 11-06-2025, 12:41 PM   #11603
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1. Parekh playing on bottom pairing and sitting in favor of Hanley
2. Missing playoffs
3. Keeping players because ownership loves the idea of playoffs

I am certain I wrote this post in April and got told i was an #######. I am pretty sure I also speculated that we would sign Nik Ehlers, so I was wrong there.
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Old 11-06-2025, 12:41 PM   #11604
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Markstrom, Toffoli, and Mangiapane deals were more pro-active.

Hanifin, Tanev, Lindholm more re-active to the way negotiations went.

Andersson he's been too re-active on IMO and that should have been done sooner.

Kadri and Coleman - it's been fine to this point but it's starting to reach the point where they might be too re-active. More so on Coleman than Kadri just because their is such a log jam at wing on this team and he's a guy they could move on from even though he is pretty awesome.
I see not spending cap space and not acquiring assets to bolster a team in a playoff spot at the deadline last year very proactive.

Andersson I can't speak to because I don't know what they turned down this summer. I get not trading him at last year's deadline to honour a team that over achieved.

Zadorov and Tanev were pretty much non negotiated and dealt because they wanted term and/or dollars greater than the team would look at.

To me (just my opinion), the only guy that was pursued fully to sign was Hanifin.
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Old 11-06-2025, 12:42 PM   #11605
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Old 11-06-2025, 12:42 PM   #11606
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Lindholm was as well, we are just fortunate that his agent advised him poorly on his market value.
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Old 11-06-2025, 12:47 PM   #11607
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So we are back to judging decisions on what could have happened and what was rumoured to have happened instead of what actually happened again.

Makes sense ... I think it's been a week.
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Agreed no need to rehash what didn’t happen that is such a Trelivng era thing anyway.


I am very interested to see how the next month goes. I see the Flames getting back in the mushy middle but personally hoping the tough season continues.
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Old 11-06-2025, 12:51 PM   #11609
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Of course Edwards doesn't want to trade Kadri. But he will if it makes sense.

Honestly, the way people overreact to clickbait speculation and partial info is crazy to me.
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Old 11-06-2025, 12:52 PM   #11610
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Let's take a step back here for a second and think about what's being said, before we panic and think doom and gloom.

Dredger is sharing exactly what we want him to share, and that's that CGY LOVES Kadri and doesn't want to move him, its been said all along that Kadri loves it here and wants to win in Calgary (drive up the value). Now of course there's the flip side where Edwards handcuffs Craig into keeping him, but from everything I've been told and heard this isn't the case at all.

I personally would be more worried if Dredger came on and said "Murray Edwards has confirmed that now that Kadri has play his 1000th game the Flames are all in on moving him to a contender".

1. It would signal that Murray/Flames ownership is shortsighted/cut throat and simply were looking to get this over with so the Flames could move on.

2. That would essentially chum the water and get all 31 teams circling the Flames looking to put together the smallest package possible to acquire Kadri.

3. Would indicate to any future UFA that Calgary has an ownership group that openly meddles in team matters in the public eye/media and doesn't let those they hire to run the team do their job


I wouldn't read too much into this personally, but I cant stop people from feeling like this sounds like mushy middle CGY lingo we're all accustomed to for the last 2 decades.
But I do feel like Calgary knows what it is, where they are and if they continue to lose I cant see any reason not to take offers on Kadri as he's probably the hottest commodity being talked about right now and his value will hold right up to the deadline.
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Old 11-06-2025, 12:52 PM   #11611
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Of course Edwards doesn't want to trade Kadri. But he will if it makes sense.

Honestly, the way people overreact to clickbait speculation and partial info is crazy to me.
And claim to be right.

15 games into the season
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Old 11-06-2025, 12:54 PM   #11612
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Also (not that it's relevant to the inital point), a team that knows Kadri is keen on them might be prepared to offer more (and avoid a Carter/Columbus situation).
Yep. Good point.

I think part of the equation that we often overlook, as fans, is how do GM’s think specific players will fit in the room. Will they be happy? The City the room etc. part of a GM’s duties is to have their finger on these things. I think there’s a lot more personal stuff involved than we ever know about.

Rantinen was a good/interesting example of this last year. Sometimes a team, Carolina in this case, needs to take their shot. Hard to say they would do it all over again. They came out ok but who knows what other options they had.
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Old 11-06-2025, 12:58 PM   #11613
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2. That would essentially chum the water and get all 31 teams circling the Flames looking to put together the smallest package possible to acquire Kadri.
This is the part I don't fully agree with.

In reality the whole "I don't want to trade the player and won't if I won't get the package I want" thing only matters when there is a limited market for a player - because then you need to be able to tell the team "fine we just won't trade him"

When there is actually a big market for a player, and it's a sellers market, then it doesn't matter. It's supply and demand at that point and pitting the packages from the teams against each other is how you're going to facilitate a larger return.

I also do get loving Kadri - as both a player and a person. And I get that he wants to win here but you have to be honest. Kadri is turning 35, you're not winning the cup in the 3.5 years on Kadri's contract, and it's unlikely he's an impact player in the final year or 2 of that contract. You have to be open to moving him, even if you don't want to.

Sure it doesn't help to go and announce you're trading him no matter what - but also don't think it's adding much value by putting out there that the team doesn't want to move him.

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Old 11-06-2025, 12:59 PM   #11614
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Murray Edwards loves the core of this team? And he wants to keep Kadri?

Jesus lmao classic.
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Old 11-06-2025, 01:01 PM   #11615
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Murray Edwards loves the core of this team? And he wants to keep Kadri?

Jesus lmao classic.
I get where you're coming from, at a glance it doesn't sound good but to play Devils advocate/

Do you know of an owner who's come out in the media and said the opposite?

"I hate my core, I want to trade them all and redo"
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I get where you're coming from, at a glance it doesn't sound good but to play Devils advocate/

Do you know of an owner who's come out in the media and said the opposite?

"I hate my core, I want to trade them all and redo"
I think he should not be saying anything at all because Conroy is the GM.

This is reminding me of Jerry Jones with the Cowboys. Lunatic owner thinks his team is just one piece away.
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Old 11-06-2025, 01:04 PM   #11617
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no kidding, some of you guys are just lol

"we are desperate to trade all these players asap...please give us your absolute best offers right now"

And if they were all out for playoffs they would have added and spent money at the deadline and in the offseason, they have plenty of cap space last I checked.
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Old 11-06-2025, 01:05 PM   #11618
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The best thing for the Flames is to lose, every win is just another sign to ownership that they have a chance for playoffs. Some people are plugging their ears at the reality of this because they still are in denial that the Flames owners are that short sighted but the Flames owners are exactly that. Sucks but that’s how it is. This has never been a plan for the future type of organization until they are forced to by gun point.
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Old 11-06-2025, 01:05 PM   #11619
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I think he should not be saying anything at all because Conroy is the GM.

This is reminding me of Jerry Jones with the Cowboys. Lunatic owner thinks his team is just one piece away.
Fair, but we honestly don't know if he even said it or used Dredger to push the agenda.
Remember, Dredger gets his information from Dave Nonis, so there's probably some truth but probably some sell job in it as well.
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no kidding, some of you guys are just lol

"we are desperate to trade all these players asap...please give us your absolute best offers right now"

And if they were all out for playoffs they would have added and spent money at the deadline and in the offseason, they have plenty of cap space last I checked.
I don't think anyone wants him to say that, I just think it's odd he is saying anything at all.
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