11-06-2025, 12:32 PM
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#11601
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I've always said the Flames have a core only Murray Edwards could love
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11-06-2025, 12:35 PM
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#11602
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
What about Conroy's moves have been reactive?
I personally don't go ditch to ditch on media reports about the inner workings of any franchise. Could be true. Could be partially true. Could be completely made up by the media, or the Flames for value.
Better to see what actually happens then act like this is something new to fret over.
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Markstrom, Toffoli, and Mangiapane deals were more pro-active.
Hanifin, Tanev, Lindholm more re-active to the way negotiations went.
Andersson he's been too re-active on IMO and that should have been done sooner.
Kadri and Coleman - it's been fine to this point but it's starting to reach the point where they might be too re-active. More so on Coleman than Kadri just because their is such a log jam at wing on this team and he's a guy they could move on from even though he is pretty awesome.
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11-06-2025, 12:41 PM
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#11603
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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1. Parekh playing on bottom pairing and sitting in favor of Hanley
2. Missing playoffs
3. Keeping players because ownership loves the idea of playoffs
I am certain I wrote this post in April and got told i was an #######. I am pretty sure I also speculated that we would sign Nik Ehlers, so I was wrong there.
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11-06-2025, 12:41 PM
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#11604
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Markstrom, Toffoli, and Mangiapane deals were more pro-active.
Hanifin, Tanev, Lindholm more re-active to the way negotiations went.
Andersson he's been too re-active on IMO and that should have been done sooner.
Kadri and Coleman - it's been fine to this point but it's starting to reach the point where they might be too re-active. More so on Coleman than Kadri just because their is such a log jam at wing on this team and he's a guy they could move on from even though he is pretty awesome.
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I see not spending cap space and not acquiring assets to bolster a team in a playoff spot at the deadline last year very proactive.
Andersson I can't speak to because I don't know what they turned down this summer. I get not trading him at last year's deadline to honour a team that over achieved.
Zadorov and Tanev were pretty much non negotiated and dealt because they wanted term and/or dollars greater than the team would look at.
To me (just my opinion), the only guy that was pursued fully to sign was Hanifin.
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11-06-2025, 12:42 PM
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#11605
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Franchise Player
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this ####ing team
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11-06-2025, 12:42 PM
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#11606
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Lindholm was as well, we are just fortunate that his agent advised him poorly on his market value.
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11-06-2025, 12:47 PM
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#11607
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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So we are back to judging decisions on what could have happened and what was rumoured to have happened instead of what actually happened again.
Makes sense ... I think it's been a week.
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11-06-2025, 12:47 PM
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#11608
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Agreed no need to rehash what didn’t happen that is such a Trelivng era thing anyway.
I am very interested to see how the next month goes. I see the Flames getting back in the mushy middle but personally hoping the tough season continues.
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11-06-2025, 12:51 PM
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#11609
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Of course Edwards doesn't want to trade Kadri. But he will if it makes sense.
Honestly, the way people overreact to clickbait speculation and partial info is crazy to me.
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11-06-2025, 12:52 PM
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#11611
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Of course Edwards doesn't want to trade Kadri. But he will if it makes sense.
Honestly, the way people overreact to clickbait speculation and partial info is crazy to me.
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And claim to be right.
15 games into the season
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11-06-2025, 12:54 PM
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#11612
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Also (not that it's relevant to the inital point), a team that knows Kadri is keen on them might be prepared to offer more (and avoid a Carter/Columbus situation).
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Yep. Good point.
I think part of the equation that we often overlook, as fans, is how do GM’s think specific players will fit in the room. Will they be happy? The City the room etc. part of a GM’s duties is to have their finger on these things. I think there’s a lot more personal stuff involved than we ever know about.
Rantinen was a good/interesting example of this last year. Sometimes a team, Carolina in this case, needs to take their shot. Hard to say they would do it all over again. They came out ok but who knows what other options they had.
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11-06-2025, 12:58 PM
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#11613
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
2. That would essentially chum the water and get all 31 teams circling the Flames looking to put together the smallest package possible to acquire Kadri.
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This is the part I don't fully agree with.
In reality the whole "I don't want to trade the player and won't if I won't get the package I want" thing only matters when there is a limited market for a player - because then you need to be able to tell the team "fine we just won't trade him"
When there is actually a big market for a player, and it's a sellers market, then it doesn't matter. It's supply and demand at that point and pitting the packages from the teams against each other is how you're going to facilitate a larger return.
I also do get loving Kadri - as both a player and a person. And I get that he wants to win here but you have to be honest. Kadri is turning 35, you're not winning the cup in the 3.5 years on Kadri's contract, and it's unlikely he's an impact player in the final year or 2 of that contract. You have to be open to moving him, even if you don't want to.
Sure it doesn't help to go and announce you're trading him no matter what - but also don't think it's adding much value by putting out there that the team doesn't want to move him.
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 11-06-2025 at 01:04 PM.
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11-06-2025, 12:59 PM
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#11614
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First Line Centre
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Murray Edwards loves the core of this team? And he wants to keep Kadri?
Jesus lmao classic.
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11-06-2025, 01:01 PM
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#11615
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhett44
Murray Edwards loves the core of this team? And he wants to keep Kadri?
Jesus lmao classic.
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I get where you're coming from, at a glance it doesn't sound good but to play Devils advocate/
Do you know of an owner who's come out in the media and said the opposite?
"I hate my core, I want to trade them all and redo"
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11-06-2025, 01:04 PM
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#11616
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
I get where you're coming from, at a glance it doesn't sound good but to play Devils advocate/
Do you know of an owner who's come out in the media and said the opposite?
"I hate my core, I want to trade them all and redo"
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I think he should not be saying anything at all because Conroy is the GM.
This is reminding me of Jerry Jones with the Cowboys. Lunatic owner thinks his team is just one piece away.
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11-06-2025, 01:04 PM
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#11617
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Franchise Player
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no kidding, some of you guys are just lol
"we are desperate to trade all these players asap...please give us your absolute best offers right now"
And if they were all out for playoffs they would have added and spent money at the deadline and in the offseason, they have plenty of cap space last I checked.
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11-06-2025, 01:05 PM
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#11618
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: San Francisco
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The best thing for the Flames is to lose, every win is just another sign to ownership that they have a chance for playoffs. Some people are plugging their ears at the reality of this because they still are in denial that the Flames owners are that short sighted but the Flames owners are exactly that. Sucks but that’s how it is. This has never been a plan for the future type of organization until they are forced to by gun point.
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11-06-2025, 01:05 PM
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#11619
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhett44
I think he should not be saying anything at all because Conroy is the GM.
This is reminding me of Jerry Jones with the Cowboys. Lunatic owner thinks his team is just one piece away.
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Fair, but we honestly don't know if he even said it or used Dredger to push the agenda.
Remember, Dredger gets his information from Dave Nonis, so there's probably some truth but probably some sell job in it as well.
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11-06-2025, 01:06 PM
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#11620
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
no kidding, some of you guys are just lol
"we are desperate to trade all these players asap...please give us your absolute best offers right now"
And if they were all out for playoffs they would have added and spent money at the deadline and in the offseason, they have plenty of cap space last I checked.
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I don't think anyone wants him to say that, I just think it's odd he is saying anything at all.
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