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Old 06-25-2023, 10:07 AM   #1141
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My point is that such a trade could not include 2023 draft picks.
Why couldn't it? Very confident for being wrong. There is absolutely nothing stopping a team from offering a 2023 pick. Teams can't even make conditional trades based on a player signing anymore anyways. I am sure the acquiring team would want to give a 24 pick so we will see what Conroy can do.

There isn't even much risk to acquiring team as all the contract details would have been figured out and waiting to become official.
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Old 06-25-2023, 10:22 AM   #1142
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Leafs don’t really have anything in attractive assets to get a Hanifin deal done.
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You don't want Connor brown and a second?
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Using that framework as a model...

Washington: Hanifin for #8 OA + Connor McMichael + Vincent Iorio + Anthony Mantha ($5.7Mx1)

Buffalo: Hanifin for #13 OA + Jiri Kulich + John Peterka + Victor Olofsson ($4.75x1)

Pittsburg: Hanifin for #14 OA + Samuel Poulin + Tristan Broz + Mikael Granlund ($5Mx2)

Seattle: Hanifin for #20 + Jagger Firkus + Ryker Evans + Ty Nelson



Seattle: Lindholm for Tyler Wright + David Goyette

Carolina: Lindholm for #30 OA + Seth Jarvis

Dallas: Lindholm for Lian Bischel + Logan Stankoven + Christian Kyrou + Jamie Benn ($9.5x2) Benn is immediately flipped with retention for other assets

Columbus: Lindholm for Cole Sillinger + David Jiricek + Jack Roslovic ($4Mx1) Roslovic flipped at the deadline for other assets
I really like the Washington and Buffalo deals, which probably means they aren’t realistic. With Dallas it has to be Wyatt Johnson. If Conroy pulls off the WSH/BUF deal and the DAL deal he is a heck of a GM
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Leafs don’t really have anything in attractive assets to get a Hanifin deal done.
They don’t but Brad likes to poke anything with a pulse
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Old 06-25-2023, 10:38 AM   #1147
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Washington's goal is to move up for Michkov. That falling through could lead to them trading that pick for a player who can play now.
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Leafs don’t really have anything in attractive assets to get a Hanifin deal done.
Sure they do depending on what Conroy's agenda is.
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Old 06-25-2023, 10:40 AM   #1149
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Jim Nill was legendary in Detroit for his drafting. If I'm guessing, guys like that always regress to what they're good at. Dallas needs to get rid of guys like Benn, and have a couple good draft years to sustain what they've built. That said, I think Nill likes having to draft and develop young guys, so I don't think they'd be the partner we be looking for to give up young assets or picks. I still don't see Colombus doing anything. They have very little to get into the playoffs as in their pipeline or their existing roster. To try to add now is foolish on their part. Seattle, I personally don't see a fit because of their team make up. They want fast. Not sure about Wright after. Carolina seems like a good possibility. For Lindholm I'd want more than that though. Pittsburgh's Dubas is on record saying they want to get younger so I'm not sure they're in the market for a Flame. Buffalo seems like a perfect fit for Hanifin.
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Washington's goal is to move up for Michkov. That falling through could lead to them trading that pick for a player who can play now.
That Washington deal is really good. Great player likely available at 8, McMichael can develop into a 2nd line center, and I don’t hate Mantha, could resign after this year on a more friendly deal and seems to be a player who can play up and down the lineup when required.
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I can only see Washington moving 8 if Michkov goes before that.
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I can only see Washington moving 8 if Michkov goes before that.
I don’t think Michkov will be around at 8, otherwise yes I agree with you
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I think we acquired Jay Bouwmeester on a Sunday morning.
And I think the Phaneuf trade was on a Sunday.
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Using that framework as a model...

Washington: Hanifin for #8 OA + Connor McMichael + Vincent Iorio + Anthony Mantha ($5.7Mx1)

Buffalo: Hanifin for #13 OA + Jiri Kulich + John Peterka + Victor Olofsson ($4.75x1)

Pittsburg: Hanifin for #14 OA + Samuel Poulin + Tristan Broz + Mikael Granlund ($5Mx2)

Seattle: Hanifin for #20 + Jagger Firkus + Ryker Evans + Ty Nelson



Seattle: Lindholm for Tyler Wright + David Goyette

Carolina: Lindholm for #30 OA + Seth Jarvis

Dallas: Lindholm for Lian Bischel + Logan Stankoven + Christian Kyrou + Jamie Benn ($9.5x2) Benn is immediately flipped with retention for other assets

Columbus: Lindholm for Cole Sillinger + David Jiricek + Jack Roslovic ($4Mx1) Roslovic flipped at the deadline for other assets
I'm going to assume you mean Shane Wright. Tyler Wright is a 50 year old ex Oiler draft pick.
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Jim Nill was legendary in Detroit for his drafting. If I'm guessing, guys like that always regress to what they're good at. Dallas needs to get rid of guys like Benn, and have a couple good draft years to sustain what they've built. That said, I think Nill likes having to draft and develop young guys, so I don't think they'd be the partner we be looking for to give up young assets or picks. I still don't see Colombus doing anything. They have very little to get into the playoffs as in their pipeline or their existing roster. To try to add now is foolish on their part. Seattle, I personally don't see a fit because of their team make up. They want fast. Not sure about Wright after. Carolina seems like a good possibility. For Lindholm I'd want more than that though. Pittsburgh's Dubas is on record saying they want to get younger so I'm not sure they're in the market for a Flame. Buffalo seems like a perfect fit for Hanifin.
If Seattle is offering the former 4th overall Centre who was the presumptive #1 prospect until a week before the draft, I’d have to think we take that deal and run.
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Old 06-25-2023, 11:06 AM   #1157
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He's saying it can. A deal can be worked out and they could make the trade this second. If both parties agree to the contract they wont back out in bad faith, they both want it.
My point was simply that it cannot be a sign and trade.
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I don’t think Michkov will be around at 8, otherwise yes I agree with you
I agree, which means they likely aren’t making any trade until the draft.
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Old 06-25-2023, 11:17 AM   #1159
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Those asking about Backlund.

I believe Calgary would love to keep him but I suspect unless something changes the direction might not be what Backlund wants. Teams have asked. I don’t believe we are far enough down the hole yet one way or another. Flames are really going to let him decide but he’s probably considered 4-5 on the priority list of the 7. Some brass don’t forget the trade request…

At least one team has inquired about Markstrom but they wanted retention +. your only have to get hot for 2 months and when Markstrom is on he can steal games… maybe next summer.

Conroy is meeting/met with Bubba this weekend.
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