[News] Adidas 4th Jersey "reverse retro" Thread (ol’ Blasty has returned!)

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Now that our primary jerseys are so good, I'm much more open to experimental 3rds/4ths etc.

[tvp2003]

So I was able to find a for sale post dating back to 2012 referring to Blasty:

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showth...ghlight=Blasty

[N-E-B]

I like to logo and I’m glad it’s back but the name Blasty has always sounded cringe to me.

[Da_Chief]

Bure is not actually wrong about the management giving up on that team too soon.
Brian Sutter like Daryl was very demanding too. The year after they tried Gilbert and Hay truly a dark year in Flames history.

25 year old Bure
22 year old Iginla
22 year old Savard
25 year old Stillman
24 year old St.Louis
In their prime that would be a heckuva top 6, especially Savard, Iggy and St.Louis.

19 year old Regher
21 year old Morris
with couple of good vets in Housley and Albelin

22 year old Giguere

Could've turned differently I guess.

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Some Flames fans. The majority? I doubt it. Actually, I'd love to see a poll here on Blasty or no Blasty. Mods, can we get a poll? Or have we had one of those?

That aged well.

Originally Posted by timun

Again, I'll do you the credit of assuming you're joking, as it would be insulting to believe you would seriously believe in this embarrassingly bad take.

I would wager "most Flames fans" don't even know what "Blasty" is without further context. (It was always "the flaming booger horse" to me.) Outside of the cadre of people who were little kids in the late '90s and early '00s I can't imagine anyone having fond memories of it. "Blasty" is to the Flames as the "Fishsticks" jersey is to the Islanders: a cynical attempt at increasing merchandise revenues at a time when expansion teams were cleaning the clocks of the established teams in the sales departments.

Frankly Flames management have been extremely inept at making new jerseys for the last 25 years. The only "hit" they had with a new design was the '03 "Black C" jersey; everything else they've ever done has been a swing-and-a-miss. The only smart decision they made in the last 15 years or so had been to bring the original jersey design back. There was a league-wide edict to participate in this "Reverse Retro" gobbledy####, so I get that the Flames' staff were painted into a corner and had to come up with something, but if they embrace "Blasty" going forward they're even more incompetent than I thought.

Quite frankly, your "embarrassingly bad take" is quite funny and the fact the best name you could come up for Blasty was "the flaming booger horse" is both sad and truly insulting to the legendary logo that Blasty is and will forever be.

Better get used to it, because if you take the Director of Marketing words for it, Blasty is going to be a permanent fixture for a long while, because he both loves Blasty himself and knows how much the majority of Flames fans love him, which is why the Flames brought him back in the first place.

Again, the Flames had so much overwhelming campaigning from Flames fans to bring Blasty back, that Flames fans were the only fanbase mentioned in The Athletic's article by the Head of Adidas Hockey, Dan Near.

It's okay that you're on the wrong side. We still support you as a so-called "Flames fan", even if your "embarrassingly bad take" is well, very wrong.

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

If people are looking to buy the jersey there is a 35% off coupon for Flames Season Ticket holders to use Flamesport.com floating around out there that ends tomorrow.

Ask a friend that's a season ticket holder.

I am one of those STH, so anyone feel free to send me a DM.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by flylock shox

I think this hits the nail on the head.


Beyond the association of that uniform with the worst period in Flames history is the fact that it was - itself - a product of desperation: an effort to repackage an awful product using a black uniform playbook that was relied upon heavily by other teams in the 90s. It's actually amazing they didn't call the logo "The Extreme C Stallion" and didn't partner with Doritos to market it.

This is it exactly. It's a symbol of how desperate the organization was back then. It was a truly sad attempt at piggybacking on the dark jersey trend and cartoon/animal logo trend to just beg a generation of children to stop thinking that anything with a Flames logo on it was something to be ashamed of. I guess it's great that it appears to have worked on a lot of kids, but that doesn't change the fact that the horse head logo is a direct product of the complete absence of pride felt for the flaming C in Calgary during the late nineties.

Thankfully the Flames grew out of that phase and learned to have some pride again (thank you Darryl!).

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

What? I didn't know this. Who ran CP?

Are any of the old timers still divided between OG CPers and OG FOIers?

Roughneck GM Mike Board!

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Bure is not actually wrong about the management giving up on that team too soon.
Brian Sutter like Daryl was very demanding too. The year after they tried Gilbert and Hay truly a dark year in Flames history.

25 year old Bure
22 year old Iginla
22 year old Savard
25 year old Stillman
24 year old St.Louis
In their prime that would be a heckuva top 6, especially Savard, Iggy and St.Louis.

19 year old Regher
21 year old Morris
with couple of good vets in Housley and Albelin

22 year old Giguere

Could've turned differently I guess.

St Louis-Savard-Iginla
Burr-Conroy-Stillman

Reggie + Leopold

+ Kipper

That group beats the Lightning.

####.

[Cappy]

For a thread based on a jersey set to be seen twice next season, this thread is full of downers.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

St Louis-Savard-Iginla
Burr-Conroy-Stillman

Reggie + Leopold

+ Kipper

That group beats the Lightning.

####.

Except Stillman was traded for Conroy.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Except Stillman was traded for Conroy.

Either way.

They’d beat Tampa.

If Iggy has just one of those guys in the top-6, they probably win.

Take Stillman and St Louis off the Lightning and I don’t know if they get past Philadelphia.

[jayswin]

A lot of that talk is moot, due to the landscape of that time. Calgary was not re-signing all of Iginla, St. Louis, Savard, Giguere, Stillman etc if they had all become the stars they were on other teams, before the lockout of '05.

It would have been the usual mid 90's carousal of "players get good, trade players for prospects to stay under budget and start again".

[drewtastic]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Bure is not actually wrong about the management giving up on that team too soon.
Brian Sutter like Daryl was very demanding too. The year after they tried Gilbert and Hay truly a dark year in Flames history.

25 year old Bure
22 year old Iginla
22 year old Savard
25 year old Stillman
24 year old St.Louis
In their prime that would be a heckuva top 6, especially Savard, Iggy and St.Louis.

19 year old Regher
21 year old Morris
with couple of good vets in Housley and Albelin

22 year old Giguere

Could've turned differently I guess.

Also--Bure's description of the OT magic was bang-on. I attended several games that season, on the back of a U of C 20$ student ticket deal.

I have a vivid memory of an OT game that the Flames won against Nashville, where they came back from a multi-goal deficit in the third. After the winning goal went in, Predator Cale Hulse (for reals) angrily smashed his stick over the crossbar of his net.

(...Only problem there was that it was an aluminum shaft and it didn't break...)

[keeper34]

Originally Posted by drewtastic

Also--Bure's description of the OT magic was bang-on. I attended several games that season, on the back of a U of C 20$ student ticket deal.

I have a vivid memory of an OT game that the Flames won against Nashville, where they came back from a multi-goal deficit in the third. After the winning goal went in, Predator Cale Hulse (for reals) angrily smashed his stick over the crossbar of his net.

(...Only problem there was that it was an aluminum shaft and it didn't break...)

And came back and beat Colorado after 0-4 after the 1st.

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by jayswin

A lot of that talk is moot, due to the landscape of that time. Calgary was not re-signing all of Iginla, St. Louis, Savard, Giguere, Stillman etc if they had all become the stars they were on other teams, before the lockout of '05.

It would have been the usual mid 90's carousal of "players get good, trade players for prospects to stay under budget and start again".

Well, at least if they had let Savard, Giguere and St. Louis become stars before trading them away they would at least have had other assets to build with. Instead they gave them away for nothing.

[Bonded]

Anyone here have a Reebok jersey and an Adidas jersey. Just debating on a 46 vs 50. Reebok small fits me decently.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

Well, at least if they had let Savard, Giguere and St. Louis become stars before trading them away they would at least have had other assets to build with. Instead they gave them away for nothing.

Zainullin just needs time to develop, don’t give up on things just yet.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Anyone here have a Reebok jersey and an Adidas jersey. Just debating on a 46 vs 50. Reebok small fits me decently.

46 is your ticket then.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

For Bure, it depends on the progression of his back/hip injuries and if that would have happened if he was in Calgary. 03-04 was the last season of his career due to the injuries.

I always wondered what if Steve Reinprecht was healthy and more the 20-goal scorer that he had shown the season before in Colorado (In the Avs' 01-02 run, he had 12 points in 21 games).

But at the end of the day, what made that team special was the mix that it had. Not sure anything added or subtracted from it gets the result we all hoped for.

[the-rasta-masta]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

For Bure, it depends on the progression of his back/hip injuries and if that would have happened if he was in Calgary. 03-04 was the last season of his career due to the injuries.

I always wondered what if Steve Reinprecht was healthy and more the 20-goal scorer that he had shown the season before in Colorado (In the Avs' 01-02 run, he had 12 points in 21 games).

But at the end of the day, what made that team special was the mix that it had. Not sure anything added or subtracted from it gets the result we all hoped for.

Certainly some of the players that were injured in 04 may have been enough to push us over the top. I mean, it was in, so we were about as close as could be anyways.

-Steve Reinprecht was on pace for 55 points that year had he not been injured, he didn't play a single game in the playoffs.

-Dean McAmmond had 17 goals and was on pace for 22. He didn't play a single game in the playoffs.

-Matt Lombardi was a 16 goal man that year and didn't play at all in the 3rd round or final.

-Toni Lydman was a strong (and underrated IMO) two way top 4 defensemen who played the first 3 games of the 1st round, and only the last 3 games of the final.

Those are all pretty big parts of the team that the Flames were without the services of. Even the loss of Gauthier in the 1st round was a hit to the team. It's almost legendary that the team made it as far as they did with guys like Montador and Commodore playing significant minutes. And had Sutter not made the trades for Simon, Nilson, and Niemenen, we were for sure first round fodder.