Demko isn't better than McDonald in any shape or fashion. Jesus ####ing Christ I hate talking with people who think HockeyDB.com is the ultimate source on judging players. All you have to do is watch the two goaltenders play and you can tell who the better goaltender is. One has the huge advantage of playing behind one of the best college programs in the nation and the other has the huge disadvantage of playing behind a very mediocre team in his league. Again, if you actually watch the two goaltenders play you'd quickly come to conclusion which has the better skill set and has the greatest potential. It's like watching Jonas Hiller and Frederik Andersson while playing for the Ducks. Demko will be exposed when he doesn't play behind the top ranked Hockey East defense and McDonald will impress more when he plays behind a good defensive system.
Seriously man. Strep away from the keyboard. There isn't a single logical reason to get so upset here.
Context is as important as results. I'll give you that. But there's an awful lot of people who disagree with your assessment. What's worse than dismissing statistics is talking about Boston College and McDonald's team like you watch them all the time and make up some reasons. Goalies in front of good college teams will have it easier than a leaky QMJHL team. Fine. That doesn't mean your assessment is more valid than Craig Button or anyone else
Demko isn't better than McDonald in any shape or fashion. Jesus ####ing Christ I hate talking with people who think HockeyDB.com is the ultimate source on judging players. All you have to do is watch the two goaltenders play and you can tell who the better goaltender is. One has the huge advantage of playing behind one of the best college programs in the nation and the other has the huge disadvantage of playing behind a very mediocre team in his league. Again, if you actually watch the two goaltenders play you'd quickly come to conclusion which has the better skill set and has the greatest potential. It's like watching Jonas Hiller and Frederik Andersson while playing for the Ducks. Demko will be exposed when he doesn't play behind the top ranked Hockey East defense and McDonald will impress more when he plays behind a good defensive system.
I don't care if BC has the top ranked defense, 10 shutouts in 35 games is extremely impressive.
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They were hoping he would be back this past weekend.
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#Flames Asst GM Brad Pascall said Monday Oliver Kylington (concussion) should be back in the Heat lineup this weekend. He's missed 5+ weeks.
edit: AHL transactions showing they released a defenceman on PTO. Should be a good sign Kylington or another d-man is good to go.
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What the hell is with the AHL schedule? Why have the Heat played about 8 to 9 games less than the average for the league? Why are most teams in the Pacific about 8 games behind every other division? Pretty bush league to have teams with 12 less games played than others this late in the year, even within the same division (Heat vs. Stars).
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What the hell is with the AHL schedule? Why have the Heat played about 8 to 9 games less than the average for the league? Why are most teams in the Pacific about 8 games behind every other division? Pretty bush league to have teams with 10 less games played than others this late in the year, even within the same division.
All the California teams will play 68 games the rest of the AHL will play 76. Standings are based on point %.
Why is that way? The NHL teams that own the California teams want to play less games for more rest, recovery, and practice days, the rest of the AHL owners don't want that so they can maximize ticket sales. This is the compromise
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I think we're fairly certain that Stockton is out of the playoffs. I haven't heard any Treviling, Conroy, Pascall or Burke interview address Stockton's performance this year. I really hope it's eventually addressed.
I think we're fairly certain that Stockton is out of the playoffs. I haven't heard any Treviling, Conroy, Pascall or Burke interview address Stockton's performance this year. I really hope it's eventually addressed.
Brad Pascall the GM of Stockton on Fan960 recently.
Makes sense. Almost every single player that has been called up this season has looked as good or better than I was expecting. That's a compliment to the Stockton staff, they must be doing something right.
It's funny to me that folks here call for Huska's head.
It's a young and inexperienced AHL squad. I said that back near the beginning of this thread, and that I was hoping people could keep that in mind when building expectations for this team.
Besides that, Huska and his staff's number one job is to produce NHL players that are already on the same page as the NHL team systems-wise, not win AHL hockey games. If the wins come too that's a bonus.
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Considering we don't have any blue chip prospects in the Heat team currently, I am entirely ok with the teams performances and results this season. Next season should project to be a lot better. We'll have a number of promising players hopefully stepping out of junior like Jankowski, Pollock, Mangianpane, Andersson etc. Gillies and McDonald will be the mainstays in net, Kylington will be a year older. Then maybe we stick in an extra forward or two from this years draft as well.
With the team more settled now that they aren't on the move over the summer, maybe they'll be able to start better than their 2-6-2 record from the beginning of this season. I honestly think the Heat should be able to easily do better than this season.
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Considering we don't have any blue chip prospects in the Heat team currently, I am entirely ok with the teams performances and results this season. Next season should project to be a lot better. We'll have a number of promising players hopefully stepping out of junior like Jankowski, Pollock, Mangianpane, Andersson etc. Gillies and McDonald will be the mainstays in net, Kylington will be a year older. Then maybe we stick in an extra forward or two from this years draft as well.
With the team more settled now that they aren't on the move over the summer, maybe they'll be able to start better than their 2-6-2 record from the beginning of this season. I honestly think the Heat should be able to easily do better than this season.
Those guys you mentioned are not anymore blue chip than Poirier, Klimchuk or Shinkaruk and the point many are making is that the Heat's struggles are due to how young the team is. As such, it doesn't make any sense for the team to be better with an infusion of more youth.
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It's funny to me that folks here call for Huska's head.
It's a young and inexperienced AHL squad. I said that back near the beginning of this thread, and that I was hoping people could keep that in mind when building expectations for this team.
Besides that, Huska and his staff's number one job is to produce NHL players that are already on the same page as the NHL team systems-wise, not win AHL hockey games. If the wins come too that's a bonus.
I agree with that.
However, I would like to see couple of the younger guys get the call and see how prepared those guys are. Nakladal, Grant, Agostino, Hamilton, Hathaway all are "matured" prospect who've spent years in college and now couple or more in minors.
The 4 call-up rule makes no sense. MLB rosters expand after trade deadline, so does the CFL rosters. Why out a limit on call-ups, who does it help?
However, I would like to see couple of the younger guys get the call and see how prepared those guys are. Nakladal, Grant, Agostino, Hamilton, Hathaway all are "matured" prospect who've spent years in college and now couple or more in minors.
The 4 call-up rule makes no sense. MLB rosters expand after trade deadline, so does the CFL rosters. Why out a limit on call-ups, who does it help?
I believe it is originally designed to keep teams from gutting their AHL team as the rule is only in effect until the AHL affiliate's season is done.
Burke and the NHL have tried to negotiate with the PA to remove the rule but it looks like the PA wants too much from the NHL as a quid pro quo:
edit: Looking into it more it looks like the PA likes the rule because it prevents NHL teams who are out of the playoffs from scratching a lot of veterans to ice a team full of call ups.
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However, I would like to see couple of the younger guys get the call and see how prepared those guys are. Nakladal, Grant, Agostino, Hamilton, Hathaway all are "matured" prospect who've spent years in college and now couple or more in minors.
The 4 call-up rule makes no sense. MLB rosters expand after trade deadline, so does the CFL rosters. Why out a limit on call-ups, who does it help?
I'll always remember Seattle calling up our ace pitcher from the Cannons before his start for the PCL championship game. We lost the game and the called up pitcher never played for Seattle.
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In the fifth game, the Cannons were forced to start Dennis Powell on two days rest after the Mariners unexpectedly recalled intended starter Dave Fleming prior to the game. The move left Russ Parker "upset" and "dumbfounded".[20] The relationship between the Mariners and Cannons was never the same.[21]
Those guys you mentioned are not anymore blue chip than Poirier, Klimchuk or Shinkaruk and the point many are making is that the Heat's struggles are due to how young the team is. As such, it doesn't make any sense for the team to be better with an infusion of more youth.
I agree with your generalization however a what, 22 year old Jankowski who has developed in college for four years should be more of an impact player sooner than your average rookie pro who would be 20 coming out of the CHL.
Seems like the Heat should have overall more talent and skill next year, I think that's the main point the poster was making and I agree with it.
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