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[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by flameswin

So even if it's 180k now, could we argue that maybe the inner city people live in a bit of a bubble, thinking most of the city commutes downtown for work and free time, when maybe there's actually 1 million people who don't work downtown, and maybe a lot of those people actually live closer to where they work than if they were to live in the inner city?

The entire population doesn't work! Kids, teens, students etc (during the winter). I'd say that number is a large chunk of a population of one million.

[4X4]

What community does Nenshi live in?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by 4X4

What community does Nenshi live in?

Whichever community his mom's basement is in.



Zing! Pow! I'm sending that with my resume to the Sun.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by flameswin

So even if it's 180k now, could we argue that maybe the inner city people live in a bit of a bubble, thinking most of the city commutes downtown for work and free time, when maybe there's actually 1 million people who don't work downtown, and maybe a lot of those people actually live closer to where they work than if they were to live in the inner city?

I don't work in the CBD, but my commute goes against rush hour and takes an average of 10 minutes. We chose our location for amenities and lifestyle.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

I don't work in the CBD, but my commute goes against rush hour and takes an average of 10 minutes. We chose our location for amenities and lifestyle.

Fair enough, and once MMF brought up a fairly obvious point that even a ######ed giraffe should have saw, I realized my numbers were fairly short-sighted. It was like the off topic version of Ricardow's NHL stats analysis.

[KelVarnsen]

Thanked for that Ricardow line.

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by Freeway

Bunk, IF Calgary were to explore a 2022 Olympics bid, how involved would city administration be? Is it something that public officials would be working on or something that private individuals, such as but not necessarily Flames ownership, would be undertaking?

Most, if not all bids for sporting events are managed (at least at the early phases) by the Calgary Sport Tourism Authority - which is not part of City Administration, but does have the Director or Recreation from the City sit on the board. Private individuals would likely be the initial champions, if not early (exploratory phase) funders, of something like an Olympic Winter Games Bid.

[Freeway]

Originally Posted by Bunk

Most, if not all bids for sporting events are managed (at least at the early phases) by the Calgary Sport Tourism Authority - which is not part of City Administration, but does have the Director or Recreation from the City sit on the board. Private individuals would likely be the initial champions, if not early (exploratory phase) funders, of something like an Olympic Winter Games Bid.

So, IF THIS WAS HAPPENING, the theory that Ken King would be championing an Olympic bid on behalf of Flames ownership may hold some water, but the city would likely have involvement.

Thanks!

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by Freeway

So, IF THIS WAS HAPPENING, the theory that Ken King would be championing an Olympic bid on behalf of Flames ownership may hold some water, but the city would likely have involvement.

Thanks!

Is there a theory out there about that?

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by 4X4

What community does Nenshi live in?

Coral Springs

[Slava]

Isn't the LEED gold certification for recreation buildings a bit early to be included as a deficit in the process? I mean I understand that this is the city standard (and its one I support wholeheartedly), but I think only the Trico centre expansion is the only one in that category at this point?

I guess what I wonder is whether suggesting that this is a deficit when we have one building (and really one renovation) completed is really fair? Maybe there are other projects in the works that make this a huge amount of money, or something else to this that I'm missing?

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by Slava

Isn't the LEED gold certification for recreation buildings a bit early to be included as a deficit in the process? I mean I understand that this is the city standard (and its one I support wholeheartedly), but I think only the Trico centre expansion is the only one in that category at this point?

I guess what I wonder is whether suggesting that this is a deficit when we have one building (and really one renovation) completed is really fair? Maybe there are other projects in the works that make this a huge amount of money, or something else to this that I'm missing?

Yeah, this is true. But we're also about to build 4 new ones (3 regional scale).

[frinkprof]

Cardel Place and Genesis Centre are also LEED Gold.

http://www.gibbsgage.com/index.php/p...r-process.html

[Slava]

Both before 2011 though?

[frinkprof]

I've been holding back a bit from this conversation due to not wanting to be sucked into the time commitment it may take to follow up.

Seb, buddy, for everyone's sake, ease up a bit on the suburban subsidy thing. Dial down the intensity. The thrust of your argument is right (in that, yes, there is indeed a subsidy, as Bunk has laid out in his post), but you're going about it the wrong way if you want to endear anyone to it.

You've been incredibly incessant and, for lack of a gentler term, annoying on this topic. I don't think it would have been so bad if you hadn't gone on to demonstrate that you were confused about the finer details of the topic, by saying "I just don't know" when challenged to provide even ballpark figures or that just plain wrong and irrelevant East Village example (East Village is a bit of an anomaly using tax increment funding making it an irrelevant example the way you used it). Not to say you would have had to have all the details right in front of you to make an effective argument, but the number of times you brought the topic up and the fervor you displayed while doing so set you up to be challenged for these details.

Overall, all your approach does is aggravate opponents and, worse, alienate fence-sitters and even people that would be sympathetic to your points.

Look how quickly 4x4 (if I can use him as an example, I'm sure he won't mind) changed his tone when presented with the right numbers and supporting context.

I don't think it should come as any surprise that I ultimately agree with the spirit of your argument about the suburban subsidies, so I'm with you in that sense. You just have to work on your delivery or you'll have the opposite effect than what you intended.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by frinkprof

I've been holding back a bit from this conversation due to not wanting to be sucked into the time commitment it may take to follow up.

Seb, buddy, for everyone's sake, ease up a bit on the suburban subsidy thing. Dial down the intensity. The thrust of your argument is right (in that, yes, there is indeed a subsidy, as Bunk has laid out in his post), but you're going about it the wrong way if you want to endear anyone to it.

You've been incredibly incessant and, for lack of a gentler term, annoying on this topic. I don't think it would have been so bad if you hadn't gone on to demonstrate that you were confused about the finer details of the topic, by saying "I just don't know" when challenged to provide even ballpark figures or that just plain wrong and irrelevant East Village example (East Village is a bit of an anomaly using tax increment funding making it an irrelevant example the way you used it). Not to say you would have had to have all the details right in front of you to make an effective argument, but the number of times you brought the topic up and the fervor you displayed while doing so set you up to be challenged for these details.

Overall, all your approach does is aggravate opponents and, worse, alienate fence-sitters and even people that would be sympathetic to your points.

Look how quickly 4x4 (if I can use him as an example, I'm sure he won't mind) changed his tone when presented with the right numbers and supporting context.

I don't think it should come as any surprise that I ultimately agree with the spirit of your argument about the suburban subsidies, so I'm with you in that sense. You just have to work on your delivery or you'll have the opposite effect than what you intended.

[KelVarnsen]

Which NFL team does Nenshi cheer for?

[frinkprof]

Originally Posted by Slava

Both before 2011 though?

So as to be included in the context of the current development agreement? No.

I think Genesis was completed in late 2010 or early 2011.

As Bunk notes though, there will be 4 more recreation centres built soon.

[RedMileDJ]

Does the mayor have a favorite classic rock song / group? Ie: Zep, AC/DC, The Who, etc?

[frinkprof]

^I think he likes Deep Purple.