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Old 11-21-2013, 07:19 AM   #1141
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I am always so confused how NCAA works, I understand you have divisions, but it is also broken into conferences?
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:45 AM   #1142
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I'd like to see Bill Arnold be in #2 by the end of the year.

Also, there's something funny about an PBP guy who uses the term "a score" instead of "he scores".
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Old 11-21-2013, 08:32 AM   #1143
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Who's this Greg Carey just under Johnny?

He's killing it his Junior/Senior year and a PPG player as a 1st/2nd year player.

What's his story? He appears to be undrafted but he's not small (more average sized) is there something about him that's kept him off the draft board during his eligability?
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Old 11-21-2013, 08:35 AM   #1144
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Not all colleges play in difficult conferences. Maybe he's in a small pond big fish kind of situation?
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Old 11-21-2013, 09:07 AM   #1145
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Not all colleges play in difficult conferences. Maybe he's in a small pond big fish kind of situation?
I considered that but the ECAC is a decent conference. The quality doesn't look as good as Hockey East but it does have 5 of the current top 20 Division I teams including the defending Frozen Four champion.
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Old 11-21-2013, 10:22 AM   #1146
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Who's this Greg Carey just under Johnny?

He's killing it his Junior/Senior year and a PPG player as a 1st/2nd year player.

What's his story? He appears to be undrafted but he's not small (more average sized) is there something about him that's kept him off the draft board during his eligability?
Probably size in his draft year kept him off. Guess who was his center in junior A? Josh Jooris.

Carey is going to be the top forward NCAA free agent. Too bad he plays LW. Probably won't come to Calgary with the depth at LW. Scouting reports have him as a pure goal scorer.

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I am always so confused how NCAA works, I understand you have divisions, but it is also broken into conferences?
As of this season, there are six conferences in NCAA Division I Hockey (previously, there were five, but they realigned the conferences this year). 59 schools have Division I men's hockey programs. There's also Division III, but it's a lower level of competition and Div I and III teams don't play against each other.

Every Div I school plays a mixed schedule, with some Conference games and some non-Conference games, plus they participate in tournaments throughout the season, which can be against Conference opponents, but not count as Conference games.

At the end of the season, each Conference has its own Championship tournament with the rankings based on just the Conference games played. Each Conference Champion receives an automatic place in the National Championship tournament, plus there are 10 additional ad hoc invitees into the tournament to bring the total to 16.

Those 16 teams are sorted into four groups of four for the Regional qualifiers. The Regionals are sorted based on both quality of competition and geographic considerations (which doesn't always line up, last year, Yale played in the West Regional and Denver played in the Northeast Regional).

The winners of the four regionals then play in the Frozen Four to determine the national champion. You can become national champion without winning your own conference (like Yale did last year).
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Interesting, thank you very much for laying that out for me..

That was the part that confused me I think, how out of conference games don't affect the rankings.
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Old 11-21-2013, 01:27 PM   #1149
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im shocked that with those kind of numbers, the media isnt going a little crazier with hyping johnny hockey.

Surely being above 2 ppg in the NCAA is a big deal?
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im shocked that with those kind of numbers, the media isnt going a little crazier with hyping johnny hockey.

Surely being above 2 ppg in the NCAA is a big deal?
23 points in 12 games. Close, but not above 2 ppg.
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Old 11-23-2013, 09:06 PM   #1151
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the media isnt going a little crazier with hyping johnny hockey.
In Boston he gets more press than all the players on the Bruins combined, last week he was on the heralds front page of sports while the Bruins were on the second.
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Johnny Hockey with the primary assist on the only BC goal in a 5-1 defeat against the Maine Black Bears

http://www.bceagles.com/sports/m-hoc...112313aaa.html
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In Boston he gets more press than all the players on the Bruins combined, last week he was on the heralds front page of sports while the Bruins were on the second.
Really?

That's kinda nuts.
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Really?

That's kinda nuts.
Yes sir!

I have family in Boston (Beverly actually) and my cousin says JG is more known/famous than Iginla in those parts. college sports in general is big there, very much a blue collar city with spending limits that support amateur sport. Flutie,Hasselbeck started the love in football but they love hockey and hoops as well.
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Old 11-24-2013, 11:49 AM   #1155
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agreed! ^ i was telling my buddy who's in MIT about taking him to a Flames game if he ever came this way, and he knew all about JG and Arnold because Boston College is so big where he is. He said JG gets so much love around those parts via every media outlet in town
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:48 PM   #1156
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Anyone else catch Kerr mentioning Cam Atkinson as a size comparable player to Gaudreau when the Flames played CBJ?

Seems they're pretty similar size wise, with NHL.com listing Atkinson as 5'8 and 174lbs. BC Eagles list Gaudreau as 5'8, and 159lbs (hopefully JG can put on some weight over the next year).

Other similarities:
- Both Hobey Baker finalists
- Both went to BC (Atkinson spent 3 years, Gaudreau hopefully will only spend 3)
- Atkinson's 2nd year point total was 53 in 42 games, Gaudreau 51 in 35 games
- Atkinson wore #13 at BC, Johnny's current #

While Gaudreau definitely has higher end skill, it's nice to see another small size player be able to stick it out and find success in the big league. Currently he's on pace for 20 goals.

Highlights of Atkinson at BC:




Highlights of Atkinson this year (Link if embed doesn't work http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/con...474715&lang=en ):

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Would be sweet if Flames can draft Vladimir Tkachev. Him and Gaudreau
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That's interesting. Good comparison, I still think Gaudreau has more to offer though. I guess time will tell.
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Old 11-27-2013, 03:18 AM   #1159
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It is incredibly exciting to see the transition and subsequent success that Atkinson has enjoyed so far as a pro athlete when you realize that even he pales in comparison to matching the point production and dominance that Johnny Hockey is currently exhibiting at the age of 20. Hell..even Johnny Gaudreau's 19 year old season bettered any year that Cam Atkinson ever had at the collegiate level in terms of point production(1.45 vs 1.33) and he is only improving upon that this year.

This kid is in a class of his own.
You could very easily make the argument that he is the most decorated prospect currently not in the NHL.
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Anther trademark Gaudreau goal tonight to punctuate the game. Boston College wins 8-2. Gaudreau with a goal and assist.

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