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Old 02-22-2019, 12:01 PM   #11381
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Remember, that gets you an unsigned Mark Stone. If he was signed and traded, you can bet we have to include one of Dube/Valimaki/Kylington. And probably still a 1st or 2nd next year.
i would do the original deal for an unsigned stone no problem

it works out to a late 1st and a bunch of flotsam. Start the Car!
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Old 02-22-2019, 12:02 PM   #11382
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Oh my goodness. This place would have had a freaking melt down if a certain trade went through yesterday. Let's just say thank god our rival backed out.
What?
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Old 02-22-2019, 12:02 PM   #11383
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Oh my goodness. This place would have had a freaking melt down if a certain trade went through yesterday. Let's just say thank god our rival backed out.
well that's not cryptic at all now...is it?

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Old 02-22-2019, 12:03 PM   #11384
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Probably competing with Winnipeg

The firsts would be equivalent . So you would be competing prospect wise.

Winnipeg probably dangles Vesalainen or Roslovic. so the Flames would have to beat that piece.
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Old 02-22-2019, 12:05 PM   #11385
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I really hope they are not considering Howard.

He's very inconsistent, and hasn't been great after having a good start to the season.

Since Dec 1.

Howard: .901
Smith: .899
Rittich: .903

Aka - he's not an upgrade on Smith or Rittich.
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Old 02-22-2019, 12:05 PM   #11386
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zucc has 2 more points than backlund in 10 less games played.

I wouldn't trade a prospect, I'd do an overabundance of picks to avoid having to deal a prospect.

2nd + 5th round pick for zucc is a much better deal than a 3rd + 5th for Michael Stone.
Backlund is fifth in scoring. Whatever. As I said, I take your point.

I'd do it for a 2nd and a 5th too. That doesn't seem like what is being asked for or what will get it done if there are as many teams in on it seems.
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Old 02-22-2019, 12:06 PM   #11387
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Oh my goodness. This place would have had a freaking melt down if a certain trade went through yesterday. Let's just say thank god our rival backed out.
Well you can't do that and then not share the details of what you may know.
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Oh my goodness. This place would have had a freaking melt down if a certain trade went through yesterday. Let's just say thank god our rival backed out.

If you know something, either share it or keep it to yourself.

These kinds of posts are the worst.
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Old 02-22-2019, 12:09 PM   #11389
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2019 1st
2020 1st/2nd (Conditional on Stone re-signing with CGY)
Dube
Mangiapane


Gaudreau - Monahan - Stone
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lindholm
Frolik - Jankowski - Neal
Bennett - Ryan - Hathaway
Rychel - Quine - Czarnik/Lazar

Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Kylington - Andersson
Valimaki - Stone/Prout

Rittich/Smith

Deep team. Damn deep.

Then in the off season look to deal Brodie, Frolik and even Neal (if he has a good finish to the season) for 2019/2020 picks, depending on the cap situation.
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Old 02-22-2019, 12:10 PM   #11390
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My prediction:

To CGY: Mark Stone (50% retained)
To OTT: 2019 1st round pick, 2020 1st round pick*, 2020 2nd round pick, Emilio Pettersen, Spencer Foo

*If Stone does not re-sign, 1st round pick becomes 2020 3rd round pick

Calgary's inclusion of the 2nd round pick, and the fact that the Flames are more likely to re-sign Stone is how Treliving wins the bidding war Vs. The Jets.

Mark Stone isn't re-signed until Day 2 of the NHL Entry Draft, as Treliving trades TJ Brodie and Michael Frolik to open up the space to extend Stone on Day 1 of the draft.

We go into the playoffs with:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Stone
Frolik - Backlund - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Ryan - Neal
Bennett - Jankowski - Czarnik
Hathaway

Deepest team upfront in the entire league. Roll 4 lines all night, with players minutes going up thanks to special teams, otherwise 5v5 minutes are generally equal.

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Backlund is fifth in scoring. Whatever. As I said, I take your point.

I'd do it for a 2nd and a 5th too. That doesn't seem like what is being asked for or what will get it done if there are as many teams in on it seems.
Would you take a 2nd and a 5th for Backlund?
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Old 02-22-2019, 12:11 PM   #11392
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There's always some ####### near the trade deadline reporting fake rumours on this board to make a name for themselves.
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I’ll be honest that I don’t know much about Stone. But my question is, if the Flames are seriously considering him and potentially signing him long term, than how does he compare to Taylor Hall? Because I see Calgary boy Taylor Hall on next years free agent list and in my opinion, I’d rather have cap space open to potentially sign him.
Hall isn't even on TSN's Top-50 list. I guess there's no expectation for the Devils to trade him.
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2019 1st
2020 1st/2nd (Conditional on Stone re-signing with CGY)
Dube
Mangiapane


Gaudreau - Monahan - Stone
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lindholm
Frolik - Jankowski - Neal
Bennett - Ryan - Hathaway
Rychel - Quine - Czarnik/Lazar

Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Kylington - Andersson
Valimaki - Stone/Prout

Rittich/Smith

Deep team. Damn deep.

Then in the off season look to deal Brodie, Frolik and even Neal (if he has a good finish to the season) for 2019/2020 picks, depending on the cap situation.
I could live with this I think. the question is: does it beat what the Jets are offering? I doubt it.
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My prediction:

To CGY: Mark Stone (50% retained)
To OTT: 2019 1st round pick, 2020 1st round pick*, 2020 2nd round pick, Emilio Pettersen, Spencer Foo

*If Stone does not re-sign, 1st round pick becomes 2020 3rd round pick

Calgary's inclusion of the 2nd round pick, and the fact that the Flames are more likely to re-sign Stone is how Treliving wins the bidding war Vs. The Jets.

Mark Stone isn't re-signed until Day 2 of the NHL Entry Draft, as Treliving trades TJ Brodie and Michael Frolik to open up the space to extend Stone on Day 1 of the draft.

We go into the playoffs with:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Stone
Frolik - Backlund - Lindholm
Bennett - Jankowski - Czarnik
Tkachuk - Ryan - Neal
Hathaway

Deepest team upfront in the entire league. Roll 4 lines all night.
HAHA ughhh
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Old 02-22-2019, 12:12 PM   #11396
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Oh my goodness. This place would have had a freaking melt down if a certain trade went through yesterday. Let's just say thank god our rival backed out.
May as well start throwing darts.
Stone for RNH, Nurse plus a first?
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May as well start throwing darts.
Stone for RNH, Nurse plus a first?
Stone for a 1996 Cadillac STS, 3 lbs of spanish doubloons and a night with your wife.
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Would you take a 2nd and a 5th for Backlund?
If he was a UFA? Yes. If it was all we could get. Given there appears to be a bidding war (if you believe what you read), I suspect that it will take a prospect. A fifth is a lottery ticket.
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Stone for a 1996 Cadillac STS, 3 lbs of spanish doubloons and a night with your wife.
The night with the wife is included as a salary dump?
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Stone for a 1996 Cadillac STS, 3 lbs of spanish doubloons and a night with your wife.
The night with his wife would have to be conditional.
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