[Rumour] Kylington to test free agency

[drewtastic]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I even recall on here, or FOI as it was at the time, some people getting frustrated when the Flames went after a rental (Krivokrasov) to try and maintain mediocrity rather than rebuild.

He was almost a point per game!

(Hashtag forever a Flame)

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

That’s also why it’s funny people worrying about attendance during the rebuild . It was already bad and declining . It can’t go that much lower

It's going to. Significantly.

[Sylvanfan]

The late 90's also have the Canadian dollar going way down to like the 61 cent range in a no cap environment that forced a lot of teams into survival mode. You can want to rebuild, but you also knew you couldn't afford to keep signing your good players to what other teams could pay. So you were selling these guys for poor returns in trades.

The other thing that doesn't get mentioned is that from say 1996 to 2002 there was a real dearth in terms of good hockey players coming up. In the first three rounds of the 96 draft...the top scorer...Matt Cullen who hung around for 1516 games to get 731 points. Zdeno Chara likely is the best player to come out of that draft in round 3. The following year is likley the best of the bunch with Thornton and Marleau at 1-2 with Hossa later on, and Luongo in net. But this is also at a time when the league went from 24 to 30 teams and still had 3 other newer franchises who were all relatively new in San Jose, Tampa, and Ottawa who were still bad teams also picking near the top. So it was hard to be worse than those teams who had come into the league with far tougher exapansion drafts to build their teams. So even if you were rebuilding...you had lots of competition for sucking and demographics were not giving you a particluarly good supply of new talent. Hence why the league was as old as it was by the end fo the 2004 season. The lockout coupled with the emergence of the Echo Generation started forcing the league to get younger. Now with a cap and younger UFA age the league does refresh itself over a shorter cycle time than it did in those days.

The more I think about it, the more I realize that Kylington probably doesn't fit into a rebuild, and at this point it's tough to say if you can build his value back up to something that you could trade for value. The player may have good reasons for wanting to move on from Calgary based on wanting a new situation, I don't know that. But if the team moves on, they do, it's not like they were going to be able to trade him last deadline for something better then a 5th round pick type of thing.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

It's going to. Significantly.

Attendance has been on the decline even when the team was winning. The building experience lags compared to other markets and inflation has hit people hard. Yes it's going to further drop but if a few of these prospects can pop over the rebuild and optimism grows parallel to the opening of the new arena, things will be fine. They really need to hit on some of their picks in the next few seasons.

[Goriders]

Signing Kylington leaves no room for younger dmen to work their way into the lineup. Of which the Flames have accumulated a number of.

Betting conman offered a 1-2 year deal for that reason.

Kylington just wasn’t a good fit anymore. Guys like Rooney and Mantha are.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Signing Kylington leaves no room for younger dmen to work their way into the lineup. Of which the Flames have accumulated a number of.

Betting conman offered a 1-2 year deal for that reason.

Kylington just wasn’t a good fit anymore. Guys like Rooney and Mantha are.

If Kylington wasn't a good fit anymore, why did Conroy offer him a 1-2 year deal?

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

If Kylington wasn't a good fit anymore, why did Conroy offer him a 1-2 year deal?

That was probably before he signed Bean.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

It's going to. Significantly.

I remember back to the early 2000’s. A buddy and me went to 20 to 25 games for free because the sales guys at our companies couldn’t give tickets away.

We might be heading back there.

[HOOT]

This thread has it all! Will he or won’t he sign, a bunch of internet doctors (on both sides) pretending to know his mental health state or anything about mental health in general, season ticket sales, attendance history lessons, even Bingo getting involved, etc. I’m glad things haven’t changed much in the past decade. If I could keep up with who has been banned and their new usernames it might have even felt like I never left. �� Never change CP! GFG

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by VilleN

That was probably before he signed Bean.

That was absolutely before he signed Bean. Kylington refused the offer so he could go to free agency on July 1. Bean was signed on July 1.

Plan B has already been executed.

[kipperiggy]

How has a #4 at best generated this much discussion?

[Flamesfan05]

So look like Kylington found the market is much below what he thinks

So now what?

I think he can still fit in but no longer a real need.


I think ego is preventing him from playing again for the Flames

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

So look like Kylington found the market is much below what he thinks

So now what?

I think he can still fit in but no longer a real need.


I think ego is preventing him from playing again for the Flames

Or that we’ve moved on. When Bean was signed Kylington’s #4 spot was no longer available.

I reckon he signs a one year deal with a rebuilding team in hopes for increased ice time and better pay in 2025. He lost his chance at a multi-year deal if there was even any interest out there. I doubt it with his very long absence. He has to understand that.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by HOOT

This thread has it all! Will he or won’t he sign, a bunch of internet doctors (on both sides) pretending to know his mental health state or anything about mental health in general, season ticket sales, attendance history lessons, even Bingo getting involved, etc. I’m glad things haven’t changed much in the past decade. If I could keep up with who has been banned and their new usernames it might have even felt like I never left. �� Never change CP! GFG

A player and/or agent misplayed their hand and had an improper read of the market for his services. That's basically the story in a nutshell.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Or that we’ve moved on. When Bean was signed Kylington’s #4 spot was no longer available.

I reckon he signs a one year deal with a rebuilding team in hopes for increased ice time and better pay in 2025. He lost his chance at a multi-year deal if there was even any interest out there. I doubt it with his very long absence. He has to understand that.

Yeah, Conroy probably says if you want to come back , here is a one year trial.

It’s probably still better than anything out there but he is not going to take it.

[theslymonkey]

I find it very interesting that the three players that I find interesting with a risk/reward type feel to them are all represented by JP Barry:

Kylington, Yamamoto and Vrana

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

It's going to. Significantly.

All the more motivation for ownership to not waste any more money on player salary.

[Blaster86]

Apparently the Canucks and Kylington are close take it with the grain of salts all these 3rd party rumours come with.

[AFireInside]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Attendance has been on the decline even when the team was winning. The building experience lags compared to other markets and inflation has hit people hard. Yes it's going to further drop but if a few of these prospects can pop over the rebuild and optimism grows parallel to the opening of the new arena, things will be fine. They really need to hit on some of their picks in the next few seasons.

Not one person I know has ever mentioned building experience as a reason to not go. I don't go because it's not worth it. Several friends have cancelled seasons tickets because of price increases though. I'm exactly the demographic who should be going dual income no kids and I can't justify spending that money.

The new arena will help for a short period but with prices going up even more it's not going to get better, unless the team is really good.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by AFireInside

Not one person I know has ever mentioned building experience as a reason to not go. I don't go because it's not worth it. Several friends have cancelled seasons tickets because of price increases though. I'm exactly the demographic who should be going dual income no kids and I can't justify spending that money.

The new arena will help for a short period but with prices going up even more it's not going to get better, unless the team is really good.

Spending how much money?

There were several games last year where a pair of 200 level tickets was around $40 bucks on FansFirst.