Vancouver is No Good 3

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by opendoor

I'm not sure how meaningful any stats (advanced or otherwise) are 10 games into the season because of score effects and small sample sizes.

There's definitely an element of truth to that - especially if you're playing 8-1, 5-0, 10-1 games, you're sending out your bottom of the lineup guys way more than you otherwise would and telling them to dump the puck in and run out the clock, so the sample size of TOI minutes that are actually played competitively is even lower. Look no further than yesterday - Sharks lose 10-1 and were ahead in most advanced stats at even strength. But the game was over 8 minutes in, so that's 52 minutes of garbage time.

But the point is more that the Canucks are benefiting from unsustainable shooting percentages, unsustainable goaltending (even if you think their goalies are quite good, which is fair), and despite some of those scores aren't 7-2-1 as a result of running their opponents out of the rink like the Avalanche, Stars and Kings. So if you were going to bet on who is going to keep piling up standings points at this rate, the Canucks are probably more of a "not convinced yet" compared to those teams.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Petey should still leave for greener pastures.

Vancouver is toxic and if things turn south again and he's locked in there it'll be a bad time, because they have some of the most atrocious fans on the planet, and no sunlight.

The umbrella of toxicity stems from the sketchy ownership right on down. I don't blame the players for banding together and playing hard to showcase their value to other clubs.

So your implication is that the Flames are all playing bad so they don't have to leave Calgary?

[getbak]

8 against the Oilers and 10 against the Sharks. Almost 40% of all their goals have come in those two games.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by getbak

8 against the Oilers and 10 against the Sharks. Almost 40% of all their goals have come in those two games.

even if they only scored 2 in each of those games their record would be the same.
Caliber of team they have played hasn't been great but Vancouver can only play the games as they come.
I'd love for the Flames to be 7-2-1, unsustainable or not.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by getbak

8 against the Oilers and 10 against the Sharks. Almost 40% of all their goals have come in those two games.

23 goals across three different games. 8-1, 5-0 and 10-1. 23 goals which is 50% of their goals through ten games. The team is riding unbelievably high but I don't think anyone is watching this and expecting this performance to be wire-to-wire.


But even if you take those games out the Canucks are still clipping along at a 3.29 goals for per game vs at 2.86 goals against which is roughly in the area I'd expect them to be.

[Johnny Makarov]

You are guys are totally doing it wrong in this thread!

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

The Canucks numbers are obviously inflated by playing against some awful teams during this stretch. The Sharks entire team seemed to be just on autopilot with no emotion through the game, which made for a completely unwatchable game.

That said the Canucks have had some weak competition for the most part (Oilers*2 [although they should be better], Predators*2, St. Louis, and San Jose), but you can't fault a team for beating bottom teams in the league.

I expect them to come back to earth a bit, they shouldn't be as bad as they were last year when it seemed like they were always letting in 1-2 weak goals per game.

[dino7c]

The Canucks have sucked forever and now might be average and lose in round one or two should they make it. Top player needs a contract and is playing like it.

sound familiar?

and yeah remember what thread you are in...even the posters who have been without internet for the last three years and have just returned to CP for some reason. They must have got the net back up and running just as the Oiler fans went down. Odd

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

The Canucks numbers are obviously inflated by playing against some awful teams during this stretch. The Sharks entire team seemed to be just on autopilot with no emotion through the game, which made for a completely unwatchable game.

That said the Canucks have had some weak competition for the most part (Oilers*2 [although they should be better], Predators*2, St. Louis, and San Jose), but you can't fault a team for beating bottom teams in the league.

I expect them to come back to earth a bit, they shouldn't be as bad as they were last year when it seemed like they were always letting in 1-2 weak goals per game.

Calgary hasn't played the toughest teams and lost 6 in a row. Beating up on really bad teams is the way to go.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Calgary hasn't played the toughest teams and lost 6 in a row. Beating up on really bad teams is the way to go.

yeah and everyone thinks the Flames are doing awesome lol

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Calgary hasn't played the toughest teams and lost 6 in a row. Beating up on really bad teams is the way to go.

I agree with you, but I guess I am saying that the Canucks record is improved by the fact that their schedule has been relatively easy so far. That said every team has a chance to win, other than San Jose that is and the top teams in the league feast on the bottom teams.

[butterfly]

[Blaster86]

And Flames fans accuse Oilers fans of clinging to the past for comfort.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

And Flames fans accuse Oilers fans of clinging to the past for comfort.

Meh we would probably accuse Canucks fans of the same thing if they actually had a past to cling to

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

2011 isn't the same as gazing back longingly at the 80s.

Every one still remembers that embarrassment clearly and the fans who participated in trashing the city aren't in retirement homes.

Considering the pattern developing from 94 and 11, it's probably due to happen all over again in 5 or so years.

It's multi-generational No Goodness.

Vancouverites can't settle for a little nudity and fireworks to the gonads like normal people.

[Blaster86]

When you have nothing to look forward too, you just stare back.

[カナダ人です]

They should have locked Petterson up a season or two ago. Now it looks like it will cost them $12M+
Yikes

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by カナダ人です

They should have locked Petterson up a season or two ago. Now it looks like it will cost them $12M+
Yikes

Can't lock a player up when they say no to a long term deal.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Meh we would probably accuse Canucks fans of the same thing if they actually had a past to cling to

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Can't lock a player up when they say no to a long term deal.

It wasn't even an option because of Benning's ineptitude. In the 2021 offseason the Canucks didn't have the cap space to offer him any kind of realistic long term contract because they spent all their money on their trash defense, paying nearly $20M for 2nd and 3rd pairing defensemen in Myers, Ekman-Larsson, Hamonic, and Poolman.

So instead, the only real option was a bridge contract which would naturally have a lower cap hit.