Looking at Twitter now it appears Hanifin and Johnny were asked about this rumor so it is definitely in the realm where it could become a distraction. Obviously they are not tampering or saying anything.
If I were Tre I’d be setting a deadline for a trade. If this keeps dragging on we’ll have no Eichel for playoffs.
If we give up players now but don’t get Eichel until next season, I’d be dropping the prospects/1st and/or requiring even more salary retained.
Adams is the worst GM in the league.
Adams is a moron. Vegas and Calgary should collectively draw a line in the sand for a timeline on this. Time itself is an asset in this and plays in massively.
Buffalo is delusional to actually believe they still have leverage at this stage. Need all suitors left to call their bluff and walk for the season by x date.
Guess I'm not ready to call Adams an idiot until we see the return or we hear that teams like Calgary are reducing their offers. By dragging it out, he has accomplished a few things:
He gets a better read on the prospects other teams are offering. The value of players like Valimaki and Kylington has definitely changed since the summer.
He gets a better read on his own club and whether he wants some players than can help now.
And because of injuries, it seems a team like Vegas is more desperate now than they would have been over the summer.
I mean he may turn out to be clueless but let's see what happens.
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Seems kinda ridiculous for the media to ask our coach and players about trading for Eichel.
Definitely is. I think it’s due to fringe media/bloggers that know we are all clamouring for something other than “Flames are a front runner for Eichel” and anything new will get shared more than whatever else they get out of the presser.
I don’t agree with Adams’ treatment of the Eichel situation overall, nor of other moves he has made. But the latest dragging out doesn’t seem to me to be a bad strategy, unless one of the suitors walks and the other drops its bid significantly.
Guess I'm not ready to call Adams an idiot until we see the return or we hear that teams like Calgary are reducing their offers. By dragging it out, he has accomplished a few things:
He gets a better read on the prospects other teams are offering. The value of players like Valimaki and Kylington has definitely changed since the summer.
He gets a better read on his own club and whether he wants some players than can help now.
And because of injuries, it seems a team like Vegas is more desperate now than they would have been over the summer.
I mean he may turn out to be clueless but let's see what happens.
If Eichel was healthy I would agree with this but him being out for 3 months doesn't help Vegas now while the guys are injured.
I didn’t like the Adams hiring because he doesn’t have experience really, but what exactly were his options here? It’s such a tough place to be when philosophically they don’t believe in the surgery he wants. So you have a guy who, when healthy is amazing, but as a team you’ve drawn that line in the sand and proposed he can’t have the surgery he wants and it’s pissed him off to the point of no return. Now everyone knows about it but you have a star player that everyone is lowballing you on as a rookie gm. It’s not easy. I’m not sure he’s completely mishandled it as he needs a home run trading a once in a lifetime deal he has to get right.
I didn’t like the Adams hiring because he doesn’t have experience really, but what exactly were his options here? It’s such a tough place to be when philosophically they don’t believe in the surgery he wants. So you have a guy who, when healthy is amazing, but as a team you’ve drawn that line in the sand and proposed he can’t have the surgery he wants and it’s pissed him off to the point of no return. Now everyone knows about it but you have a star player that everyone is lowballing you on as a rookie gm. It’s not easy. I’m not sure he’s completely mishandled it as he needs a home run trading a once in a lifetime deal he has to get right.
Oh...I think Buffalo will be drafting in the Top 3 sooner rather than later.
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I didn’t like the Adams hiring because he doesn’t have experience really, but what exactly were his options here? It’s such a tough place to be when philosophically they don’t believe in the surgery he wants. So you have a guy who, when healthy is amazing, but as a team you’ve drawn that line in the sand and proposed he can’t have the surgery he wants and it’s pissed him off to the point of no return. Now everyone knows about it but you have a star player that everyone is lowballing you on as a rookie gm. It’s not easy. I’m not sure he’s completely mishandled it as he needs a home run trading a once in a lifetime deal he has to get right.
not that I disagree with the fact he's been a dealt a tough hand, but dragging this out didn't help at all. At some point you bite the bullet and make the deal ... deals won't get better with time here. It's more than reasonable to think that offers are already quite a bit worse than they were months ago. If you're about maximizing assets, and that's what a GM should be concerned about, he hasn't handled this well at all.
