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Old 11-20-2013, 12:52 PM   #1121
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They can't. That's not at all the same position as what Johnny is in.

I think Johnny will sign with Calgary, but this post makes no sense. These players re enter the draft of they don't sign...
They're not in the same situation? Didn't Erixon hold out on us?

Gaudreau's actually in a situation that is favourable to the Flames. We have his rights until August 15, 2015.

If Gaudreau wants to play NHL hockey soon, he's going to sign with the Flames. It's as simple as that.

If he doesn't want to sign with the Flames, we have 2 years to trade him. However, Gaudreau has shown no signs that he's even thinking about that.
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:56 PM   #1123
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You would think Gaudreau was a pending UFA this year with all the concern over this.
I don't lose sleep at night but I don't consider him a Flame until he signs. That said I think the Flames are monitoring things closely and they aren't going to get caught by surprise like with Erixon. We probably won't even know if anything is up because if something is up the organization would likely look to trade his rights so my assumption is that as long as he's not part of a trade package in the next season or all of a sudden his name pops up in a lot of trade rumours from sources like TSN the organization likely feels he's going to sign a contract.

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Old 11-20-2013, 12:58 PM   #1124
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They're not in the same situation? Didn't Erixon hold out on us?

Gaudreau's actually in a situation that is favourable to the Flames. We have his rights until August 15, 2015.

If Gaudreau wants to play NHL hockey soon, he's going to sign with the Flames. It's as simple as that.

If he doesn't want to sign with the Flames, we have 2 years to trade him. However, Gaudreau has shown no signs that he's even thinking about that.
Agree on Gaudreau, but your not understanding the cba.

Erixon was playing on Sweden, not chl. He therefore could be a free agent after we were unable to sign him. CHL players can't do that. End of story
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:00 PM   #1125
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They can't. That's not at all the same position as what Johnny is in.

I think Johnny will sign with Calgary, but this post makes no sense. These players re enter the draft of they don't sign...
And so what if they again dont sign with their newly drafted team and become a UFA? No one can force a kid to sign a contract.

Also, how come no is freaking out about Gilles. Dude is a monster, must be thinking about signing somewhere else. I mean why would you want to play for the Flames if you're, you know, good?

This is all so stupid.
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Agree on Gaudreau, but your not understanding the cba.

Erixon was playing on Sweden, not chl. He therefore could be a free agent after we were unable to sign him. CHL players can't do that. End of story
I think you are misunderstanding the Erixon situation, he would have gone back to the draft if he didn't sign by June 1, 2011.

That's why the Rangers gave up what they did, they weren't expecting him to fall far enough where they could grab him up with their 1st.

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On June 1, Calgary Flames general manager was forced to deal prospect Tim Erixon as the young defenceman refused to sign an entry-level contract with the club.

The defenceman felt he wouldn't have a legitimate shot at cracking the roster this season and was willing to take his chances in the 2011 NHL Entry Draft if his rights were not traded by the club.

Feaster opted to ship his rights and a fifth-round draft pick to New York Rangers in exchange for forward Roman Horak and two second-round picks.

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Agree on Gaudreau, but your not understanding the cba.

Erixon was playing on Sweden, not chl. He therefore could be a free agent after we were unable to sign him. CHL players can't do that. End of story
No, Erixon would have re-entered the Draft. The Rangers wouldn't have given up anything to get his rights if they could have waited 24 hours and signed him for free.

That was changed in the new CBA, and the Flames would have held his rights for another 2 years if he had been drafted under the current CBA.
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:07 PM   #1128
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Agree on Gaudreau, but your not understanding the cba.

Erixon was playing on Sweden, not chl. He therefore could be a free agent after we were unable to sign him. CHL players can't do that. End of story
It's not exactly the same, but teams have 2 years to sign their CHL players before they go back into the draft.

What difference does it make to a team whether they lose a player this way or as a UFA? If I'm not mistaken, Erixon would have gone back into the draft as well and the Flames would have been compensated with the 53rd pick in the draft.
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:35 PM   #1129
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I think you are misunderstanding the Erixon situation, he would have gone back to the draft if he didn't sign by June 1, 2011.

That's why the Rangers gave up what they did, they weren't expecting him to fall far enough where they could grab him up with their 1st.

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Old 11-20-2013, 05:01 PM   #1130
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Yes, it is 1%. Devo22 did the work that shows that since the last CBA 2 out of 118 players or 1.7% have "Justin Schultz'd" their way to the free market.

^ It was only like 20 posts above your first one Street.

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Old 11-20-2013, 05:42 PM   #1131
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Sorry Thymebalm, I meant you have to include players that forced a trade a la Knight. I was pointing out that "Schultz"ing (sounds dirty) isn't the only endpoint to consider
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Old 11-20-2013, 06:05 PM   #1132
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Old 11-20-2013, 06:45 PM   #1133
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What does that twitter quote mean? Did Johnny hockey dominate some more?
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Old 11-20-2013, 06:51 PM   #1134
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Boston up 5-1 with Johnny scoring twice. Guadreau driven into the boards, injured?
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Old 11-20-2013, 06:58 PM   #1136
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Boston up 5-1 with Johnny scoring twice. Guadreau driven into the boards, injured?
Oh man' please update when you can. That's always kind of been the caveat to Gaudreau. Please please please let him be okay.


Edit.

Never mind. I read the other thread and he's ok.
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Old 11-21-2013, 01:09 AM   #1139
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National scoring leader. This league is just child's play for Johnny.
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Well hopefully he will want more of a challenge by the end of the year.
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