Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Slava

I'm not defending what she said (by any stretch of the imagination), but out of curiosity, what would you have Smith do here? Like what other consequences can she impose?

We’ll, she could borrow to fund operations or something something, but god forbid we apply a consistent lens of what to do in a challenging circumstance of your own creation vs a challenging circumstance beyond your control…the former definitely deserves more benefit of the doubt so keep up the good fight!

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Surprised usually this stuff comes out after an election and the damage is done.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1659235417994960901

This is exhibit "A" for the most pathetic attempt at disinformation. It's all over the media that the Premier did contravene the Conflict of Interest Act, and yet you have this desperate grasp to somehow suggest that the outcome was different.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

We’ll, she could borrow to fund operations or something something, but god forbid we apply a consistent lens of what to do in a challenging circumstance of your own creation vs a challenging circumstance beyond your control…the former definitely deserves more benefit of the doubt so keep up the good fight!

I mean if you can't understand the difference between spending on operations vs. capital projects, that's on you.

[Torture]

Looks like our two favourite Take Back Alberta candidates in Chelsea Petrovic (Highwood Livingstone) and Eric Bouchard (Calgary Lougheed) are back in the news with some more garbage.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1659272510523981824

[Leeman4Gilmour]

https://votecompass.cbc.ca/alberta2023

This may have been posted earlier. Apologies if its a repeat.

I appreciate these tools aren't perfect, but it helps a person understand where they align with each party's platform.

[Flacker]

Originally Posted by edslunch

The oil companies deserve heaps of blame for their active role in climate-change denial over the decades. No different than big tobacco, even if though their product is extremely useful and necessary.

Edit: like going to jail levels of blame. The global cost of climate change will be trillions of dollars, largely caused by the use of their products, something they were well aware of.

Canadians as a whole shouldn't shoulder this blame for funding the bulk of our country with resource royalties? Or is it just Alberta and their energy companies?


When will the call the action come for forestry, mining, hydro-electric projects all to be vilified? We are a country that harvest resources, those are our primary industries.

The northern taiga forest of Canada is one of the biggest carbon sinks in the world, we are part of the solution not the problem. We shouldn't have to kneecap our primary industries to prove that.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Big movement in the Mainstreet tracking poll; UCP lead is now down to 1.7%. Yesterday it was UCP+4.1.

https://twitter.com/MainStResearch/s...72647556087808

It’s a three day tracker, and yesterday’s numbers moved the other way—so possible that a very strong daily sample for the NDP got added.

[wireframe]

Originally Posted by dubc80

Oh yeah I feel this comment. I deal with older white oilfield sales guys all the time and they are very surprised when I don't immediately agree with them, or when I counter with objective opinions.

When out for lunch or coffee, these guys always find a way to inject some type of political comment in.

Like geeez man. I just want to ask you about your kids, your summer plans, and your new landscaping project. No need to turn that into a way to get a cheapshot in at Trudeau, Notley or the mayor every chance you get...

Some of these guys think O&G are the be all and end all. Truly miserable people looking for things to get upset at.

Its weird.

That's the main reason that I left the industry and I know several other data scientists that left for the same reason. It's just depressing that hating politicians has become the entire personality of so many people in industry. I would rather leave than be dragged down with them.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Big movement in the Mainstreet tracking poll; UCP lead is now down to 1.7%. Yesterday it was UCP+4.1.

https://twitter.com/MainStResearch/s...72647556087808

It’s a three day tracker, and yesterday’s numbers moved the other way—so possible that a very strong daily sample for the NDP got added.

I think the challenge with all these polls is where are these people being polled from or what ridings are they representing, because if it's concentrated in a couple of ridings or not stretching to meet a fair distribution across the province, and our system is FPTP, the the polls may not reflect actual seat count distribution versus popular vote.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Slava

This is exhibit "A" for the most pathetic attempt at disinformation. It's all over the media that the Premier did contravene the Conflict of Interest Act, and yet you have this desperate grasp to somehow suggest that the outcome was different.

It actually isn’t, listen to the radio they are saying the same thing they found no evidence of her contacting prosecutor. They do lay blame of some lesser accusation however I’ll admit that.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Yoho

It actually isn’t, listen to the radio they are saying the same thing they found no evidence of her contacting prosecutor. They do lay blame of some lesser accusation however I’ll admit that.

The headline isn’t No evidence of Smith contacting prosecutor. It’s Smith obstructed Justice in a similar manner to Trudeau by discussing active cases with the attorney general. Go pull your comments on the JWR affair and trace Trudeau with smith.

That is how everyone should feel now.

Unfit to govern.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Yoho

It actually isn’t, listen to the radio they are saying the same thing they found no evidence of her contacting prosecutor. They do lay blame of some lesser accusation however I’ll admit that.

"lesser accusation". I mean she contacted Shandro who refused to interfere. It's the exact scenario with SNC Lavalin, and I'm 100% sure that you wanted heads to roll for that. Surely, you don't have a different line of thought here?

[Ozy_Flame]

Also, Press Progress' Duncan Kinney is threatening to sue Danielle Smith over her swastika spray-painting claims. Personally I love that she commented on an individual case that is before the courts. Bus Boobs just can't seem to keep her mouth shut and her face out of privacy concerns.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1659281491061542913

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1659282707921408000

More good news for an NDP Provincial gov.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Yoho

It actually isn’t, listen to the radio they are saying the same thing they found no evidence of her contacting prosecutor. They do lay blame of some lesser accusation however I’ll admit that.

It was the same accusation against 2 different people. Guilty for one but not both.

[dsavillian]

Originally Posted by Yoho

It actually isn’t, listen to the radio they are saying the same thing they found no evidence of her contacting prosecutor. They do lay blame of some lesser accusation however I’ll admit that.

She didn't smear feces on the wall. I'll admit, she did get it all over the floor - but that's not what they were accusing her of.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Yoho

It actually isn’t, listen to the radio they are saying the same thing they found no evidence of her contacting prosecutor. They do lay blame of some lesser accusation however I’ll admit that.

Damn liberal media.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Yoho

It actually isn’t, listen to the radio they are saying the same thing they found no evidence of her contacting prosecutor. They do lay blame of some lesser accusation however I’ll admit that.

Legacy Media.


No thanks!

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Random consumers attempt to shift blame onto oil and gas companies is always so funny.

Companies don't go produce, transport and sell oil and gas for fun. It's because people use it and they can profit from it.

If you want companies to stop producing oil and gas, stop using it. Ultimately the reality is that the blame for oil and gas production should lie at the feet of consumers and people. Companies are subservient to market demands, not some evil monolithic creatures foisting production upon society.

Some politicians have tried to tackle that issue, with taxes on consumption intended to drive consumers to products that create less GHG. Unfortunately this is a front to our Albertaness and these politicians should kiss the shoes of the oil executives providing us with the fruits of our land for a *small* fee!

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Yoho

It actually isn’t, listen to the radio they are saying the same thing they found no evidence of her contacting prosecutor. They do lay blame of some lesser accusation however I’ll admit that.

You can't actually be this daft, can you? Well, ok, we all know you can. "Listen to the radio her de der der." How about you read the ####ing report yourself, instead of having it filtered through media toadies caring water for their former co-worker? Eh? Here. Read, if you are capable.

https://www.ethicscommissioner.ab.ca...ay-17-2023.pdf

You may even catch the part where the ethics commissioner found Smith contravene the conflicts of interest act, if you look really carefully.


You see, this is why we are so ####ed. Media can misrepresent the facts, morons believe it, and voters tic a box without knowing the facts.