Sean has exceeded all expectations coming here and playing in his rookie season. He has progressed tremodously at adjusting to the pro game... He scores tons of his goals within a few feet of his net, and he isn't scared to throw some hits anymore.
The one thing I do agree with the poster above is that his burst and foot speed need to be worked on heavily the next two seasons.
A real positive going forward is that it looks like Agostino is a 'pro', whether he's working at carrying himself like that or it comes naturally, he seems like a guy who the organization can rely on as being prepared.
Bodes well for his development I think. You can see that sort of professionalism on the ice too, in the way that he understands his defensive responsibilities and the hustle necessary to fully execute them.
That's a big, deep, leap from a limb, but its my first impression of the guy.
However all the draft profiles of him called him an elite playmaker and passer. Perhaps we haven't seen that part of his game yet.
I remember my buddy in junior high telling me we should trade Iginla after his rookie year because he wasn't going to get substantially better. Putting hard ceilings on impressive rookies often makes you look foolish later on.
Unless all the scouts were wrong last year Monahan has untapped playmaking ability.
We've only started to see just what a beast he will be in board battles. You've started to see it more the last month but Monahan had a high level of physical and smart board work in junior. He almost always come away with the puck. He's a tall guy but he's also will fill out physically too. He won't be a power forward but he'll be a tough guy to play against.
His snap shot his amazing, deftly quick an sickly accurate. His assists will go up as he gets linemates that match his skill. I don't know if I see a sick passing game in him but he'll get plenty of helpers because of how smart a player he is. He knows where he needs to be and where the puck needs to go. I'm drooling at the potential skill and size match of him and Poirer. Throw Baertschi on the left side for some dynamic skill and I'm very excited.
Monahan reminds me of a cross between an early Bergeron and Kopitar. Another player that fits that player type is Logan Couture. If Monahan turns out to be close to any of those 3, he's going to be a leader on this team for years to come.
Wasn't there a quote out there somewhere (Feaster maybe) about moving away from the idea of a 'franchise' player?
I don't know that a team like LA had even one franchise player when they won the cup. They just had some great talent. Boston had one?
"Franchise" player is awfully subjective, and personally only a few teams have one (and they aren't the only contenders year in and year out).
Monahan is going to be great. Will he carry this team by himself? Probably not, but you know what? He's 19. It'd be a bit laughable to predict the outcome of his entire career at his age. I'm more than happy with ideas of Kopitar/Couture/Krejci level of player.
If we draft a center in the top four this year, I see our forward situation looking an awful lot like Boston's in a couple years.
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Is Bergeron? I would be so fataing stoked if Monny turned into Bergeron, franchise player or not.
Certainly pretty close, and if anything it's arguable they all actually are. But if that's the level of quality that decides a franchise player then I don't think it's totally out of the question that Monahan could potentially hit that level.
He'll never be Crosby, he's not going to get 100 points or show the defensive dominance that a guy like Bergeron shows, but if he can put up 60-70 points per year, play hard along the boards, win his battles, make the players around him better, and play a sound defensive game, is that good enough to be "franchise"? In my opinion, he absolutely could achieve all of those conditions.
Certainly pretty close, and if anything it's arguable they all actually are. But if that's the level of quality that decides a franchise player then I don't think it's totally out of the question that Monahan could potentially hit that level.
He'll never be Crosby, he's not going to get 100 points or show the defensive dominance that a guy like Bergeron shows, but if he can put up 60-70 points per year, play hard along the boards, win his battles, make the players around him better, and play a sound defensive game, is that good enough to be "franchise"? In my opinion, he absolutely could achieve all of those conditions.
Plus a faceoff wizard and ridiculous level of commitment to the team.
2013 Stanley Cup Finals:
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"I don't like to do that tonight, but I know there's some media that might not be there on Wednesday [for the team's breakup day]," Bergeron said. "So I had a broken rib, torn cartilage and muscles, and I had a separated shoulder."
Bergeron is exactly the mold I'd love to see Monahan fit in to.
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....He'll never be Crosby, he's not going to get 100 points or show the defensive dominance that a guy like Bergeron shows, but if he can put up 60-70 points per year, play hard along the boards, win his battles, make the players around him better, and play a sound defensive game, is that good enough to be "franchise"? In my opinion, he absolutely could achieve all of those conditions.
You don't think that Monahan's defensive game can get to Bergeron's level? Why not? I mean, I understand that Bergeron is amazing, but Monahan was an EXCEPTIONAL defensive player in juniour, and after his first year in the NHL, I see no reason why he can't develop into an elite defensive forward.
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You don't think that Monahan's defensive game can get to Bergeron's level? Why not? I mean, I understand that Bergeron is amazing, but Monahan was an EXCEPTIONAL defensive player in juniour, and after his first year in the NHL, I see no reason why he can't develop into an elite defensive forward.
Hedging my bets mostly. I'd love for him to get to that level and while I don't think it's out of the question, I struggle with predicting a player developing elite level qualities. That's just me and I think there is ample opportunity for him to fully exceed any modest predictions.
Reasons to be confident that Moanahan will continue to improve and progress including in areas where he needs to work on
- He is incredibly coachable
- He is remarkably focused and willing to put time in where he needs to in order to improve his weaknesses. In this vein he is similar to guys like Bergeron, Crosby and Toews.
- He takes this game seriously. This is his job. His craft.
- He's only 19.
Whatever we are seeing now from the guy is not the complete picture from a long shot.
I don't know what the ceiling is but it seems foolish to place one on him on now based on his rookie season.
But some people always have that bowl of cold water ready.
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Phaneuf really helped re-calibrate how I look at prospects and judge emerging talent in general.
Phaneuf was more exciting than Monahan in his rookie year, but I'm more excited for Monahan, because he doesn't seem to have the same obstacles to overcome as others, like Phaneuf.
Having your head in the game is probably the most important quality you can have in a player. Everything else benefits from that.
Monahan looks like the type of player who will be in the league for a long time, getting better every year.
After a season of watching Monahan, here is a comparison that I think is reasonable in terms of play style: Ron Francis
Phaneuf really helped re-calibrate how I look at prospects and judge emerging talent in general.
Phaneuf was more exciting than Monahan in his rookie year, but I'm more excited for Monahan, because he doesn't seem to have the same obstacles to overcome as others, like Phaneuf.
Having your head in the game is probably the most important quality you can have in a player. Everything else benefits from that.
Monahan looks like the type of player who will be in the league for a long time, getting better every year.
After a season of watching Monahan, here is a comparison that I think is reasonable in terms of play style: Ron Francis
I agree with the Ron Francis comparison. Here's another video:
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Remembering that sick pass he made on the Baertschi goal early in the season makes that easy to believe.
Perhaps we see a Baertschi - Monahan - Colborne line next year? I do remember Monny and Baertschi having good chemistry, but it was Hudler on the wing rather than Colborne who was still being played as a center on a lower line.
Perhaps we see a Baertschi - Monahan - Colborne line next year? I do remember Monny and Baertschi having good chemistry, but it was Hudler on the wing rather than Colborne who was still being played as a center on a lower line.
Yeah I can see this line happening and sticking if Baerts makes the team out of camp and keeps up his work ethic.
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