2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Spurs]

I can’t imagine the Leafs move Knies they need him to offset the massive contracts they have upfront.

[dammage79]

We're gonna see what this team is heading into this gauntlet of a schedule before Xmas. They might win enough to carry on the delusion that this group can make noise.

IMO, they need to commit to the re-build/re-tool and forget about W's and playoffs.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dammage79

We're gonna see what this team is heading into this gauntlet of a schedule before Xmas. They might win enough to carry on the delusion that this group can make noise.

IMO, they need to commit to the re-build/re-tool and forget about W's and playoffs.

I think what we'll get is the four UFAs all getting dealt, but there will be no focus on rebuilding. They're within a handful of points of a wildcard spot - this team will do whatever they can to get that spot. It is how they have always operated.

It'll be a pivot to a different roster that stays 'competitive' all season, and might snag a wildcard spot.

End product will end up being not much different than what we've had for the last 18 months, but instead of worrying about overpaying Lindholm/Hanifin, we'll just be a team loaded with mid-talent on market deals and hope that we put it together like Seattle did last season.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I think what we'll get is the four UFAs all getting dealt, but there will be no focus on rebuilding. They're within a handful of points of a wildcard spot - this team will do whatever they can to get that spot. It is how they have always operated.

It'll be a pivot to a different roster that stays 'competitive' all season, and might snag a wildcard spot.

We'll see. I think that is the actually the hardest approach and it will fail either way and just have them entering the rebuild in a worse spot. Teams won't trade players that are are actually performing on their contracts and helping them win. Rentals return futures because GMs are adding to their teams. If the Flames go after players they will get cap dumps or under performing guys like Sharangovich. If they add 4 players like Sharangovich they will be worse.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I think what we'll get is the four UFAs all getting dealt, but there will be no focus on rebuilding. They're within a handful of points of a wildcard spot - this team will do whatever they can to get that spot. It is how they have always operated.

It'll be a pivot to a different roster that stays 'competitive' all season, and might snag a wildcard spot.

End product will end up being not much different than what we've had for the last 18 months, but instead of worrying about overpaying Lindholm/Hanifin, we'll just be a team loaded with mid-talent on market deals and hope that we put it together like Seattle did last season.

If they move the four UFAs for futures, I'm fine with making the playoffs.

It's the halt the sales table to make or just miss and have them walk that keeps me up at night.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Bingo

If they move the four UFAs for futures, I'm fine with making the playoffs.

It's the halt the sales table to make or just miss and have them walk that keeps me up at night.

Yep, this is the dream. I’m just afraid of them orienting the trades away from the future in an attempt to find value in players that are less-than. I’m afraid of the key parts being players in their mid-20s that the Flames (lacklustre) scouting staff believe can become more than what they are.

Effectively, I don’t want more deals to look like the Sharongovich deal. I’d sooner them look like what we traditionally see when teams sell in-season.

[Canada 02]

Rarely do contending teams trade roster players in-season or deadline. They will get futures. No need to fret

[Dan403]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

Rarely do contending teams trade roster players in-season or deadline. They will get futures. No need to fret

Unless its to move money to make the deal work.

[Canada 02]

Originally Posted by Dan403

Unless its to move money to make the deal work.

Cap dumps enhance the return

[MrMike]

3 minor trades have happened since the start of the season. Just crazy these days what the cap world does to player movement. As a small market fan I understand how important the cap was for us but I still miss trades.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Yep, this is the dream. I’m just afraid of them orienting the trades away from the future in an attempt to find value in players that are less-than. I’m afraid of the key parts being players in their mid-20s that the Flames (lacklustre) scouting staff believe can become more than what they are.

Effectively, I don’t want more deals to look like the Sharongovich deal. I’d sooner them look like what we traditionally see when teams sell in-season.

They won’t be able to compete going the Sharangovich route so I’ll still take it over re-signing the UFAs. They are going to lose a top 6 centre, a#2 dman, a 2nd pairing dman, and a 4/5 guy. At best they’ll get 4/5 guys back and that d core will be a wreck and should keep them in the bottom unless they somehow hit a Forsberg for Erat type home run.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by MrMike

3 minor trades have happened since the start of the season. Just crazy these days what the cap world does to player movement. As a small market fan I understand how important the cap was for us but I still miss trades.

Getting to watch Edmonton struggle with staying cap compliant while the McWindow shrinks alone makes it worth it.

Being able to buy your way to a deep run tarnishes the accomplishment IMO.

[MrMike]

Meh, many of times our team has had a top 5 on paper defensive core and never perform up to that. Maybe the opposite will happen with stuffing in some kids and a cheap veteran or two.

[D as in David]

Instead of first or early-round picks from trade partners, the Flames should focus on getting young prospects plus load up on the 4th round picks.

[saillias]

Frank on Barn Burner thinks the hold up to trades isn't the Flames it's the other teams, contrary to what Friedman or Dissentower are saying. Paraphrased what he said, Conroy is ready to make a deal but the interested parties are backing off.

Classic tire-kicker Treliving IMO.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by saillias

Frank on Barn Burner thinks the hold up to trades isn't the Flames it's the other teams, contrary to what Friedman or Dissentower are saying. Paraphrased what he said, Conroy is ready to make a deal but the interested parties are backing off.

Classic tire-kicker Treliving IMO.

Tire-kicker Brad is also in what appears to be the toughest cap position he’s been in. He went free agent frenzy and now has little to work with to make a deal, unless salary retained.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by MrMike

3 minor trades have happened since the start of the season. Just crazy these days what the cap world does to player movement. As a small market fan I understand how important the cap was for us but I still miss trades.

You miss us trading away any player showing signs of being a star because we can't afford them, while watching the same 8 big market teams (Rangers, Leafs, Wings etc) loading up on all the leagues star players?

I don't miss that NHL at all.

[sureLoss]

Friedman says that is unlikely the Flames trade Zadorov or Tanev to Vancouver.

Says Toronto, Islanders, and Dallas have interest. Dallas wants the best d-man they can find.

Arizona wants Hanifin

https://twitter.com/user/status/1726754798597255410

[Enoch Root]

Elliotte been on a bender?

[activeStick]

The other reality that some aren't realizing is that if the Flames start moving guys like Lindholm, Hanifin, Zadorov for mostly picks and very young prospects, other guys like Andersson will ask for a trade. Guy is in his prime and a legit top pair defenceman. Makes no sense for him to stick around for 5-6 years for the re-tool/re-build to start producing results when he'd be 33.