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		|  10-30-2025, 10:06 PM | #11101 |  
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					Originally Posted by Bonded  They sure held onto Markstrom until he walked to UFA |  
One move they did, they are rare though. But thank you, I forgot about that one.
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		|  10-30-2025, 10:14 PM | #11102 |  
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					Originally Posted by Rhett44  One move they did, they are rare though. But thank you, I forgot about that one. |  
Toffoli and Mangiapane, too.
 
In fact, you have a pattern of forgetting about every move that doesn't fit your narrative. It must be convenient for you.
		 
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		|  10-30-2025, 10:29 PM | #11103 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jay Random  Toffoli and Mangiapane, too.
 In fact, you have a pattern of forgetting about every move that doesn't fit your narrative. It must be convenient for you.
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Thank you for the feedback. I will check my notes next time.
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		|  10-30-2025, 10:35 PM | #11104 |  
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			Weren’t Toffoli and Mangiapane traded in the offseason where they were going into their last season before UFA?  
 Markstrom’s front we had little choice as he wanted out.
 
 I’m holding out hope that Conroy sells and doesn’t hesitate to listen on everyone.  There are no such things as untouchables, especially when age is over 30 (including Ras here (29)).
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		|  10-30-2025, 10:41 PM | #11105 |  
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			Seattle Kraken prospects of interest:
 -C Jake O'Brien, who currently has 26 points in 12 OHL games (+15) with Brantford.
 
 -W Julius Miettinen (19 years old), turns 20 in January), a 6'4",207-pounder who is up to 22 points in 13 WHL games (+19!) with Everett.
 
 -C/LW Nathan Villeneuve, a 19 year-old, 6'0",194lb sparkplug with 15 points in 8 OHL games with Sudbury.
 
 -LD Jakub Fibigr (19), a 6'0",172lb rearguard who skates, moves the puck, plays a good two-way game, and currently has 12 points in 12 OHL games with Brampton.
 
 -RD Blake Fiddler (18), drafted 36th-overall on the summer, he's a huge (6'5",212lbs) shutdown blueliner with decent skill and mobility who has 8 points in 14 games with Edmonton (WHL).
 
 -W Jagger Firkus (21), former junior star, drafted 35th-overall in 2022, he has 7 points in 6 games with Coachella (AHL).
 
 -LW Clarke Caswell (19), standing 5'11", and 181bs, he's another former junior star (and Captain of the Broncos) who was drafted in the 5th-round in 2024. Currently, he has 6 points in 6 games with the U of Denver. Good two-way instincts, and a fine playmaker.
 
 -C/RW Logan Morrison (6'0",179lbs) was never drafted, but the 23 year-old has 5 points in 6 AHL games with Coachella.
 
 -RW Jacob Melanson (6'1",205lbs) the 22 year-old was a favorite of mine in his draft year- he's scrappy and physical, and has 5 points in 6 games with Coachella (AHL).
 
 -C/LW Oskar Fisker-Molgaard (6'0",168lbs) is only 20, drafted 52nd-overall in 2023, and is a speedster with high motor, a cerebral offensive facilitator, and a detailed defensive player. He currently has 4 points in 6 games with Coachella, in his rookie season.
 
 -LD Tyson Jugnauth (5'11",170). The 21 year-old was a star in junior, putting up 89 points in 65 games last season, with 33 points in 18 playoff games for Portland (WHL). This year, he's with Coachella, and has 4 points in 7 games so far.
 
 -RD Maxim Agafonov (6'2",201lbs), was selected in the 5th-round in 2025, but was ranked much higher. He's quite mobile, and provides his team with quality puck-movement, and ability in both ends of the rink. He's spent most of the year in the VHL, with 1 KHL game to his credit.
 
 -LD Caden Price (6'1",190lbs) was drafted in the third-round of the 2023 draft, but the 20 year-old was ranked higher on most lists, and has played for Team Canada in the U-18's, the Hlinka, and the WJC. He's an excellent two-way D who can contribute in any situation, and is well-balanced skill-wise.
 
 -LD Will Reynolds (6'3",192lbs) is another player who was drafted in the third-round (2025), but was ranked higher on many lists- mostly because he moves well, and plays a heavy, physical, shutdown game, with the ability to move the puck out of the zone by pass or by carry.
 
 -C/LW Carson Rehkopf (6'2",201lbs) exploded offensively in the OHL after being drafted 50th-overall in 2023. He skates well, has good hands, an excellent shot, and plays a good 200-ft game with physicality. Still finding his way in the AHL though, with only 2 points in 6 games.
 
 -RD Lukas Dragicevic (6'2",196lbs) was drafted 57th-overall in 2023, after posting 75 points in 68 games with Tri-City (WHL). Even at 20 years old, he's still figuring it out, but has tons of raw skill- so far, just 2 points in 7 AHL games in his rookie season.
 
 -C Ollie Josephson (6'1",190lbs) was a favorite of mine in the 2024 draft (he was taken in the 4th-round), but he's trending more towards being a gritty, agitating defensive C who can shut down top players. Only 1 point in 6 AHL games so far, the former Captain of the Rebels is still working on his game in the pros, but he'll be a good one.
 
 -W Eduard Sale (6'1",174lbs) was a highly-touted offensive winger who was drafted 20th-overall in 2023, he has struggled to live up to his billing since coming over across the pond- but he has plenty of raw skill to work with. He played in 3 WJC tournaments, putting up 21 points in 21 games.
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		|  10-30-2025, 10:47 PM | #11106 |  
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					Originally Posted by Niemo  Weren’t Toffoli and Mangiapane traded in the offseason where they were going into their last season before UFA?  
 Markstrom’s front we had little choice as he wanted out.
 
 I’m holding out hope that Conroy sells and doesn’t hesitate to listen on everyone.  There are no such things as untouchables, especially when age is over 30 (including Ras here (29)).
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Both were UFA and Toffoli requested a trade.
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		|  10-30-2025, 10:59 PM | #11107 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sandman  Seattle Kraken prospects of interest:
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Are there rumors about the Kraken having interest in any of our players? Would be nice to sell to a team like this that has been bad for years and not the asset starved, cap crunch contenders like Toronto Dallas VGK etc.
		 
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		|  10-30-2025, 11:10 PM | #11108 |  
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			Seattle also owns Tampa Bay's 1st Round Picks in both 2026 and 2027.
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		|  10-30-2025, 11:14 PM | #11109 |  
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					Originally Posted by Bert  Wouldnt it be funny if Royle was Murray Edward’s this whole time? |  
I’ll punch him in the nose if it is.
		 
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		|  10-30-2025, 11:17 PM | #11110 |  
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					Originally Posted by Rhett44  Thank you for the feedback. I will check my notes next time. |  
It is hard to keep track of all 8 veterans that have been traded since Conroy became GM for picks and prospects. It is a lot of players that he has moved out as part of the rebuild.
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		|  10-30-2025, 11:18 PM | #11111 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sec214  I’ll punch him in the nose if it is. |  
Lmao.
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		|  10-30-2025, 11:28 PM | #11112 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hackey  Both were UFA and Toffoli requested a trade. |  
He requested a trade because the Flames didnt want to give him an extension
		 
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		|  10-30-2025, 11:43 PM | #11113 |  
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					Originally Posted by Niemo  Weren’t Toffoli and Mangiapane traded in the offseason where they were going into their last season before UFA? |  
Yes; and neither one of them received a contract offer before he was traded. The narrative is that Conroy only trades players after throwing money at them to beg them to stay.
		 
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		|  10-30-2025, 11:57 PM | #11114 |  
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					Originally Posted by Aarongavey  It is hard to keep track of all 8 veterans that have been traded since Conroy became GM for picks and prospects. It is a lot of players that he has moved out as part of the rebuild. |  
8 players moved over 2 years (3 summmers). 
7 of them in the final year of their contract, with the exception being Markstrom. Is that correct?
 
 Im genuinely curious what the average roster turnover is, and how this compares.
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		|  10-31-2025, 05:07 AM | #11115 |  
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					Originally Posted by traptor  8 players moved over 2 years (3 summmers).7 of them in the final year of their contract, with the exception being Markstrom. Is that correct?
 
 Im genuinely curious what the average roster turnover is, and how this compares.
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8 moves in 2 seasons and a bit. 3 of the players had 82 regular season games left on their contract. 5 had less than 82 games and were into their final year of their contract.
 
As to how it compares, no GM has traded as many veterans for pricks and prospects in as short of a time period. It is the most amount of trade action in that regard of any rebuild in the cap era.
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		|  10-31-2025, 07:34 AM | #11116 |  
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			And despite the fact that it is actually the most, there are several posters on here who CONTINUALLY say the Flames refuse to trade vets.  Then they are reminded of this fact.  Then they wait a day or two, then they post the same thing again.
 I used to think these posters were slow.  Now I am convinced that they are next-level trolls.
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		|  10-31-2025, 07:42 AM | #11117 |  
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					Originally Posted by saillias  Are there rumors about the Kraken having interest in any of our players? Would be nice to sell to a team like this that has been bad for years and not the asset starved, cap crunch contenders like Toronto Dallas VGK etc. |  
Nope.
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		|  10-31-2025, 08:01 AM | #11118 |  
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			If I had Edwards money, I'd surely purchase the Flames so I could take a crack at righting this ship that's for sure!
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		|  10-31-2025, 08:21 AM | #11119 |  
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					Originally Posted by Rhett44  Thank you for the feedback. I will check my notes next time. |    |  
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		|  10-31-2025, 08:40 AM | #11120 |  
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					Originally Posted by Royle9  If I had Edwards money, I'd surely purchase the Flames so I could take a crack at righting this ship that's for sure! |  
I would purchase the Flames and treat them as my play thing, thus probably f'ing it up even more. I would expect to have a heavy handed in all trades and drafting. In fact I would sit at the draft table. 
 
But that's what I would do. What's the point in being a billionaire if you can't be a meddlesome owner? 
 
Oh man I would be a nightmare. 
But I would have a TON of fun until the league kicks me out.
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