2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I wonder if there is a trade to be made with Montreal involving Kuzmenko with Laine going down? The Flames pretty much have to make room for Honzek at this point.

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Laine trying to split the D?

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

You try to move him now, while every team has a full roster, you get nothing for him.

You wait until the deadline, and he is a very attractive asset.

There is no hurry in getting Honzek to the NHL, he is 19.

Every year - EVERY year - there are multiple young players that look great in pre-season, only to discover that the regular season is a different beast entirely, and they are in fact, not ready. Case in point: Coronato last year.

And then a vet goes down with an injury early in the season opening a spot that you could have used for the asset you lost.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I wonder if there is a trade to be made with Montreal involving Kuzmenko with Laine going down? The Flames pretty much have to make room for Honzek at this point.

We want our 1st back!

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by D as in David

We want our 1st back!

They obviously would not do that for Kuzmenko but I would love for the flames to somehow get that first round pick back. Especially early in the season would mean there’s no longer a cloud of “we’re winning too much”. Don’t really see a real trade option that would make sense for either team to make something work though.

[Kipper_3434]

Can't trade Kuzy or any significant player without salary coming back. Flames will be barely over the cap to start the season.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I don't like the message that sends though to a young player that is playing that well.

Not just the player involved. The other players on the farm see it too.

[Snuffleupagus]

Kuzmenko needs to stay on this team as long as possible, the paying fans need some fun factor talent.

[UKflames]

Getting real de ja vu with these Honzek discussions, these were the same questions we were having about Coranato last pre-season. Does he go down, does he not,is playing top minutes in the A better.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Kuzmenko is a beauty, as well as being found money. Lindholm was bolting here, and he bolted Vancouver. What did Conroy get? Kuz, Brzustewucz, Jurmo, a first and a third?

In his very first year in the NHL, he was tied for 20th in the league in goals with 39. I don’t care what Tocchet didn’t like. This is not a player with everyday routine skill

The team blew it up because we lost 2 guys who were 40 goal scorers ...

They are gone, each making about 10 million.

And now you have a 28 year old ~40 goal scorer at 5.5 million and people can’t wait to trade this.



So what’s the plan? Tank and hopefully draft a guy that can one day score 40? That’d be awesome

[sch19lks]

Originally Posted by UKflames

Getting real de ja vu with these Honzek discussions, these were the same questions we were having about Coranato last pre-season. Does he go down, does he not,is playing top minutes in the A better.

I think he’s earned some games. I think it sends a bad message to players in the organization if you send him down without giving him 5-10 games.

The whole “work hard, play well and earn a spot” gets thrown out the window if Honzek comes in, works hard, plays really well and gets sent down. It sends the wrong message

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Kuzmenko is a beauty, as well as being found money. Lindholm was bolting here, and he bolted Vancouver. What did Conroy get? Kuz, Brzustewucz, Jurmo, a first and a third?

In his very first year in the NHL, he was tied for 20th in the league in goals with 39. I don’t care what Tocchet didn’t like. This is not a player with everyday routine skill

The team blew it up because we lost 2 guys who were 40 goal scorers ...

They are gone, each making about 10 million.

And now you have a 28 year old ~40 goal scorer at 5.5 million and people can’t wait to trade this.



So what’s the plan? Tank and hopefully draft a guy that can one day score 40? That’d be awesome

Conroy has a plan and he’s executing it but the results will be judged in a few years. Players are taking peoples jobs right now but it sure ain’t Kuzmenko’s.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by My2Cents

I would be pretty annoyed if I was offered 62 million and then the Bruins held a press conference saying I declined 64 million. If I wasnt happy with the organization to start this would not sit well with me as I would absolutely feel cheated.

Easy way to destroy a relationship is to lie about the situation. Why lie publicly (if that's true) though, as clearly it would be caught. Very strange situation.

Because Neely is an ass

[Royle9]

Craig definitely has some decisions to make in the next few days, there’s a lot going on behind the scenes that’s for sure. Teams having injury troubles right now might be found money for Craig as Calgary has had a number of “kids” really show up this pre-season.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Kuzmenko is a beauty, as well as being found money.

And now you have a 28 year old ~40 goal scorer at 5.5 million and people can’t wait to trade this.



So what’s the plan? Tank and hopefully draft a guy that can one day score 40? That’d be awesome

Well, he's averaged about 30 goals in his 2 seasons in the NHL.

He's not particularly good on the defensive side of the game.

He's in his walk year.

The fact he is found money is irrelevant at this stage. He's now an asset that Calgary needs to maximize his value.

I guess it depends on what's your game plan?

Do you sign him to a long term contract? What's the most you'd give him in terms of AAV and especially term?

If not, you trade him when you think his value is the greatest.

And I'm just asking the questions, I don't know what the answer are. I expect his contract demands are higher than I would like, especially term.

I expect Conroy will make the correct decision.

[cam_calderon]

If you think Kuzmenko's average goals is going up, the Sharangovich deal I would do.

I'd say it's probably going south. How likely is it he hits 30 again, let alone 40, on this team? Four years or less while we're still drafting potential top talents and/or they're on ELCs, I could see him getting $6.5 million per while the cap space isn't really that important, and we do have to hit the floor.

If he starts hot and Conroy can get some decent picks, do it.

[TOfan]

Kuzmenko to Montreal is an interesting thought but I’m not sure either Montreal or Calgary leaps to any rash decisions. At least not at this point.

Liane’s injury looked pretty bad. It wouldn’t be surprising if he’s done for the year. And if he is able to come back, at what point and at what capacity? It’s going to take some, I think. Realistically, what are Montreal’s expectations this year? Certainly improving and playing competitive hockey later into the season would have been an expectation, but a playoff team? Not too sure many expect that.

At this point I think it’s more likely they look internally or see what presents itself on the waiver wire. I think they’ll be patient, to a degree, and see where they’re at by Christmas.

If they are competitive, either Martha or Kuzmenko could be of interest to them. They certainly have the draft capital to acquire a player.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

If you think Kuzmenko's average goals is going up, the Sharangovich deal I would do.

I'd say it's probably going south. How likely is it he hits 30 again, let alone 40, on this team? Four years or less while we're still drafting potential top talents and/or they're on ELCs, I could see him getting $6.5 million per while the cap space isn't really that important, and we do have to hit the floor.

If he starts hot and Conroy can get some decent picks, do it.

I’d be a bit leery about giving Kuzmenko a deal. He’s got a rep of being a little bit fat and a little bit lazy. Hand him a 6 year deal and he might be inclined to kick his feet up. Flames will be challenged for the next 6 years or so of having one contract that is problematic. Having two or more could really sewer any rebuild they are undertaking. I suspect the plan here has been to flip Kuzmenko for more assets, they shouldn’t deviate.

[cam_calderon]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I’d be a bit leery about giving Kuzmenko a deal. He’s got a rep of being a little bit fat and a little bit lazy. Hand him a 6 year deal and he might be inclined to kick his feet up. Flames will be challenged for the next 6 years or so of having one contract that is problematic. Having two or more could really sewer any rebuild they are undertaking. I suspect the plan here has been to flip Kuzmenko for more assets, they shouldn’t deviate.

Let's say he gets a carbon copy of Sharangovich, $5.75 million/season for five seasons. That's not an anchor, as it likely hovers around $100k per point at least for the first two or three years. With power play time any fewer points would be unlikely.

Anyway, I agree with you. I think Conroy is looking at a trade but wants to strike while the iron is hot. It's kinda weird having trust in the GM. Kinda nice.

[iloveicedhockey]

I might be a negative Nellie but I'm setting my expectations for Rasmus based on the Hanifin deal, but with a forward instead of a D. If Conny does better then that's a win. I don't think Rasmus will hamstring us in the same way Noah did (as was his right) but we'll see.