10-30-2025, 10:34 AM
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#11001
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Franchise Player
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Let's spread out the picks
Detroit: 2026 1st + Buium (or let's take Soderblom just for the comedy of seeing him and Klapka on a line)
Coleman: 2027 1st
Kadri + Bean: 2027 2nd + Zharovsky.
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10-30-2025, 10:36 AM
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#11002
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Hmm let's make up random trades for those 3 players.
Andersson (50% retention) to Detroit for 2026 1st + Shai Buium
Coleman (50% retrention) to New Jersey for 2026 1st
Kadri + Bean to Montreal for 2026 1st + Xhekaj + Beck
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I would be good with all of those. Imagine having 5 1st in this upcoming draft? I think they would probably want one of those picks to be in 27.
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10-30-2025, 10:37 AM
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#11003
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Let's spread out the picks
Detroit: 2026 1st + Buium (or let's take Soderblom just for the comedy of seeing him and Klapka on a line)
Coleman: 2027 1st
Kadri + Bean: 2027 2nd + Zharovsky.
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That Habs trade seems light to me.
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10-30-2025, 10:46 AM
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#11004
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Zharovsky is allegedly not only amazing, but friends with Demidov.
I am thinking they may be more interested in keeping him than Hage.
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10-30-2025, 10:49 AM
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#11005
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
He doesn't have any choice - moving Kadri, Coleman and Andersson eliminates $16.5M in cap space (less any retention) and they would be well under the floor. So they have to take some salary back.
Also, if you take those 3 out of the lineup, you're down to Backlund, Huberdeau and Lomberg, up front, and Weegar on the point, for vets. That is getting REALLY skinny. Most of us want a rebuild, but just replacing those 3 with 3 kids would create a lineup that would get caved in on a regular basis - no way the organization will allow that, and I agree with them.
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Not really true on the salary front. The Flames are currently $13M above the floor. If the Flames retain 50% of Andersson and Coleman ($4.725M combined) then they are only moving out $11.775M.
That means Conroy does not HAVE to take back salary, which means that if a team wants to dump salary on the Flames they have to pay for it.
As for vets, we would be light on vets but I do not think it is as dire as just the 4 players you mentioned.
In the forward group, in addition to Huberdeau, Backlund, and Lomberg, the Flames have Sharangovich and Frost. Both players are over 25 and have more than 300 games played. Farabee is 25 and has over 400 games played.
On D, you have Weegar and Hanley who are over 30. Bean and Bahl are both in the 200s for games played.
That is 10 players who could still bring that veteran experience to lead the young players and show them the ropes as to how to navigate the NHL experience. They may not be fan favourites or all stars but they can be mentors in a team that is going to have a rough year after selling off 3 core vets.
I do not love what that would mean for Wolf but based on the first 11 games it looks like he is in for a rough year either way.
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10-30-2025, 10:50 AM
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#11006
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
That Habs trade seems light to me.
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No salary retained I would be ok with that deal.
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10-30-2025, 10:56 AM
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#11007
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I think it's too early to give up on Frost, personally. Last year was a write-off, with the trade and move. I think we need to give him at least 40 games, but more realistically, another year, to see what he is.
His cap hit is irrelevant (the Flames will be more worried about the floor this year), so I would play him through this year and into next. Right now, he isn't going to return a ton - either he gets going, and increases his value, or the Flames can move him next year, or re-sign him cheaper.
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Frost is needed if Kadri goes for at least the rest of this year and maybe half of next year. They can also let him and Zary fight for the 2nd line role for the next year and decide on 1 of them. If the prospect pool shifts to more talent at center, then you can move 1 to the 3rd line and 1 gets traded.
Kadri moving is the next player to go at center IMO
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10-30-2025, 10:59 AM
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#11008
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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This is less of a trade rumour but more of just a random rumour.
There is a guy on HFBOARDs and Twitter saying that Huberdeau actually has an injury that requires surgery, and once the Flames are out of the playoff race for sure he will be shut down to have that surgery to be fully ready for next season.
One again consider the source is a random guy on HFBOARDS, but that would be interesting if true and potentially also plays into the teams plans.
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10-30-2025, 11:06 AM
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#11009
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
This is less of a trade rumour but more of just a random rumour.
There is a guy on HFBOARDs and Twitter saying that Huberdeau actually has an injury that requires surgery, and once the Flames are out of the playoff race for sure he will be shut down to have that surgery to be fully ready for next season.
One again consider the source is a random guy on HFBOARDS, but that would be interesting if true and potentially also plays into the teams plans.
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Like mathematically eliminated, or 10 games below .500 in November eliminated?
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10-30-2025, 11:09 AM
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#11010
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Zharovsky is allegedly not only amazing, but friends with Demidov.
I am thinking they may be more interested in keeping him than Hage.
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Probably right - but he's also more of the type of player they already have.
I might be dreaming.
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10-30-2025, 11:13 AM
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#11011
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
This is less of a trade rumour but more of just a random rumour.
There is a guy on HFBOARDs and Twitter saying that Huberdeau actually has an injury that requires surgery, and once the Flames are out of the playoff race for sure he will be shut down to have that surgery to be fully ready for next season.
One again consider the source is a random guy on HFBOARDS, but that would be interesting if true and potentially also plays into the teams plans.
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Presumably (if true) from his crash into the net. Something to do with his ribcage?
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10-30-2025, 11:17 AM
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#11012
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Like mathematically eliminated, or 10 games below .500 in November eliminated?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D as in David
Presumably (if true) from his crash into the net. Something to do with his ribcage?
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The exact quote was:
"Won’t happen this year as Huberdeau need surgery and will likely be shut down in December/January if Calgary doesn’t start winning soon.
He may be a better trade bait at the draft or next year once he recovered."
And his rationale was he knows Huberdeau's brother (who is quite active in the hockey community in QC from what I've heard).
I still think the deadline for this team is Dec 1 / 25 game mark. If they are still in the bottom 5 of the league at that point I think that's when things get serious and moves start to happen.
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10-30-2025, 11:20 AM
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#11013
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Zharovsky or Hage would be ideal from the Habs.
If we can't get them I would want Kapanen.
Kapanen + 1st + Protz
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10-30-2025, 11:47 AM
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#11014
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
The exact quote was:
"Won’t happen this year as Huberdeau need surgery and will likely be shut down in December/January if Calgary doesn’t start winning soon.
He may be a better trade bait at the draft or next year once he recovered."
And his rationale was he knows Huberdeau's brother (who is quite active in the hockey community in QC from what I've heard).
I still think the deadline for this team is Dec 1 / 25 game mark. If they are still in the bottom 5 of the league at that point I think that's when things get serious and moves start to happen.
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This our year to make the push.
Lose Huby to injury.
Kadri, Andersson, and Coleman to trades.
It'd be the perfect step.
I agree with Jiri - stack picks in 26/27, not just exclusively in 26.
From a Montreal perspective, I think it'd be wiser of them to spend picks rather than Hage or Zharovsky. That's what makes sense to me if I was trying to load up for the next 5 years. Keep those guys you know and like and are a year down the development path already.
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10-30-2025, 11:59 AM
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#11015
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Let's spread out the picks
Detroit: 2026 1st + Buium (or let's take Soderblom just for the comedy of seeing him and Klapka on a line)
Coleman: 2027 1st
Kadri + Bean: 2027 2nd + Zharovsky.
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Those don’t seem like bidding war prices to me. They might be the actual prices but I would be trying to get something more like a 1st and Kasper from Detroit.
I myself would rather have Coleman than Charlie Coyle, regardless of position and Coyle went for 2023 3rd, a 2025 2nd and Middelstadt and then two months later him and Wood were flipped for a 2nd, a 3rd and a 2023 2nd. At a minimum I don’t think you would need to retain to get a 1st for Coleman and if you did retain you should be able to get more than a 1st.
Jets gave up a 2nd for Brandon Tanev who is a far inferior player to Coleman.
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10-30-2025, 12:01 PM
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#11016
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
The much much avoided "rebuild" may soon be more upon us than we realize.
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It has been going for two years now…
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10-30-2025, 12:04 PM
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#11017
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
I don't expect either to be moved "soon" but from what I've been told the 3 amigos in Kadri, Andersson and Coleman remain to be the most talked about commodities and will have every chance to be moved (Darkhorse name - Frost)
The great news is at least right now its a bidding war, though teams have circled the Flames like sharks hoping for desperation moves.
But don't kid yourself, Craig knows his value and all 3 should bring back very good returns. I do think that Craig would want some younger roster players as part of the return(s) but is also very interested in 1st round picks in the next two drafts.
I haven't heard anything concrete/more detailed myself outside of what I've already highlighted a few times regarding the interest in CGY's select players.
The U.S thanksgiving "deadline" for playoff spots will likely have some impact on when bodies start moving, but I was told Craig is in no hurry to move players for sake of doing so in a panic/salvaging type move.
The much much avoided "rebuild" may soon be more upon us than we realize.
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Please not again. Why does he keep doing this. How many Farabees and Sharangoviches does he need to figure it out
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10-30-2025, 12:08 PM
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#11018
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saillias
Please not again. Why does he keep doing this. How many Farabees and Sharangoviches does he need to figure it out
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They will need some younger dmen TBH.
Move on from Bean, Hanley too and getting some younger bodies (especially LH shots) to grow with Parekh and Bryz wouldn't be the worst.
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10-30-2025, 12:16 PM
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#11019
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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10-30-2025, 12:19 PM
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#11020
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Scoring Winger
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Well, as some have pointed out, the team does need to get to the cap floor that some people seem to forget about.
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