2010 CFL Thread

[troutman]

I love how people go on about how "smart" the Rider fans are in making noise when the other team has the ball.

Congratulations - you can tell the difference between Green and Red! Your MENSA applications are approved!

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by speede5

What a load of crap. Are you guys all serious or are you just making excuses ahead of time.

Not making any excuses ahead of time. The Riders are going to benefit from pass interference calls against Browner and Anderson deserved or not. I think the Stampeders are the better team from top to bottom and I don't want to see the game decided on some lame pass interference calls. The CFL would love an Als/Riders rematch so I'm sure the officials have been instructed to ensure that Browner and Anderson don't get away with anything.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by troutman

I love how people go on about how "smart" the Rider fans are in making noise when the other team has the ball.

Congratulations - you can tell the difference between Green and Red! Your MENSA applications are approved!

Well to be fair, as educated as I consider stamps fans, I've seen Burris driving down the field with less than a minute left and people are on their feet cheering and screaming at Mcmahon, it happens far too often.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by Dion_Iggy_Kipper!!!

That's true, but Mcmahon Stadium is as close it Taylor Field as you can get without actually being in Regina. The crowd will be great. It will be hard to communicate on the field for both offences.

Crowd noise is not the reason that any team struggles on the road. The lack of consistency in routine and comfort level is.

If Calgary plays well it'll be a rout. Let's remember that Calgary is a team that was +163 in point differential this year. Saskatchewan? +11. Add home field advantage (and Calgary's 7-2 home record) and Saskatchewan's inability to win on the road (3-6 road record) and the tables are slanted more in Calgary's favor.

I always find it funny when people act like being the better team is somehow a disadvantage because of "pressure". I don't see how a Rider team that was in the Grey Cup is in the locker room acting like they have nothing to lose and no one expected them to be here.

One other thing to note is that it's supposed to snow every day this week in Calgary and be in the area of -10 by Sunday. That plays heavily into Calgary's dominant rushing attack and Saskatchewan's inability to stop the run. Saskatchewan's rushing attack is pretty mediocre as well.

[jeremywilhelm]

Don't feed the moon. He is about as irrational as any one human could be.

[speede5]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The CFL would love an Als/Riders rematch so I'm sure the officials have been instructed to ensure that Browner and Anderson don't get away with anything.

I can't even begin to think of a response to such a ludicrous post.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by speede5

I can't even begin to think of a response to such a ludicrous post.

You don't think that the officials get memos to watch certain players? Happens all the time.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

You don't think that the officials get memos to watch certain players? Happens all the time.

What? They get memos to watch certain behavior, not particular players.

[speede5]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

You don't think that the officials get memos to watch certain players? Happens all the time.

No, I don't.

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

I said awhile back that I would explain the Jesse Newman situation if he ended up traded to the lions.

He started yesterday so I thought I should fill up on humble pie.

He injured himself 2 times before preseason and really lost motivation. The first injury was he tweaked his back lifting. Then as he was recovering from that, the second occurred. He hurt his shoulder carrying a backpack on a hiking trip. So combine those with his attitude of not wanting to go through his 3rd camp injured and not really being a passionate pro. He has the talent and the opportunity, but he is the type to want to be doing something else.

Whether that's due to his injury history, or his lack of contract extension I don't understand why he would handle the situation this way. But he got what he wanted and that was to be home. He's happy now and that's what counts. His team is yesterday's news and ours is facing the nation, that's what counts to the red and white nation. Myself included...

Hell of a day yesterday, can't believe the Lulay TD on the last play of the game.

Go REd and White.

[OzSome]

I was watching the Riders-Lions game and I thought it showed how inexperienced Travis Lulay are. He must have wasted so much time late in the game. Lucky for him they were able to score a TD at the end and they went to OT. The Lions' defense actually lost the game for them. They sort of collapsed in the 2nd half and I can't believed they gave Dressler a lot of room. I was rooting for the Lions to win vs the Riders but it don't matter anyways because I don't like both teams.

Bring on the Riders!!! GO STAMPS GO!!! It will be worth not going to Vegas this week for the Gaming Show.

Originally Posted by arloiginla

A few thoughts.

-Fantastic game to watch. CFL is so exciting to watch.

-B.C. just wouldn't go away, some horrible play calling by the Rider D allowing B.C. to tie on the last play of regulation. Why would you blitz in that situation?

-Why did B.C.'s defense just collapse? They had Durant contained all game long. The Riders O is incredibly one-dimensional to the pass, with them losing in the game the Lions should have contained them easy.

-Riders receivers go offside on almost every play. Why isn't that called?

I still like Calgary's chances next week. Burris is a better QB than Durant all things being equal, so as long as Frank doesn't show up the Stamps O will take care of things. Defensively speaking the Stamps are the far superior bunch as long as they don't get nailed with the long ball to often. As for special teams neither team's is very special.

I thought I was either the only guy paying attention to this or going crazy, maybe a bit of both.

I couldn't believe it wasn't being called. They were clearly in the neutral zone on several plays without a call. Just seemed really odd to me.

Maybe it is just the television perspective that makes it look offside. I dunno.

[arloiginla]

Originally Posted by speede5

No, I don't.

Then you are naive. I can tell you it happens a lot. There's no proof that the league will go out of their way to ensure one team wins, but they do instruct officials to watch certain players who are frequent offenders of whatever it is the league is trying to crack down on at that particular time.

Not a stretch at all for the league to want its ratings high, hope for a Saskatchewan win, and simply instruct the refs to keep an eye on Browner and Anderson. Tecnically they've done nothing wrong and they certainly wouldn't express their ulterior motives to anyone else.

Happens all the time, don't kid yourself. The Stamps will have to be careful on Sunday.

[chummer]

Originally Posted by arloiginla

Then you are naive. I can tell you it happens a lot. There's no proof that the league will go out of their way to ensure one team wins, but they do instruct officials to watch certain players who are frequent offenders of whatever it is the league is trying to crack down on at that particular time.

Not a stretch at all for the league to want its ratings high, hope for a Saskatchewan win, and simply instruct the refs to keep an eye on Browner and Anderson. Tecnically they've done nothing wrong and they certainly wouldn't express their ulterior motives to anyone else.

Happens all the time, don't kid yourself. The Stamps will have to be careful on Sunday.

Show proof then.You're questioning the integrity of officials here.What's in it for them? Your conspiracy theory makes no sense.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Bent Wookie

I thought I was either the only guy paying attention to this or going crazy, maybe a bit of both.

I couldn't believe it wasn't being called. They were clearly in the neutral zone on several plays without a call. Just seemed really odd to me.

Maybe it is just the television perspective that makes it look offside. I dunno.

There's offside on nearly every play in the CFL, stamps get away with it too, it just doesn't make sense to call it all the time.

Originally Posted by corporatejay

There's offside on nearly every play in the CFL, stamps get away with it too, it just doesn't make sense to call it all the time.

I disagree with you there. Offside is something that is pretty black and white and for the most part, it is called fairly and consistently regardless of the teams.

It's not like holding or another sort of subjective infraction that may or may not be called.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

There's offside on nearly every play in the CFL, stamps get away with it too, it just doesn't make sense to call it all the time.

That is true that there are lots of offsides that don't get called but lots are timed perfectly as well but IMO the Riders are offside on nearly every passing play out of the shotgun. They use more crossing/rub patterns than any other team and their receivers are always 1-2 yards into their crossing pattern at the moment of the snap. The DB's are getting rubbed by a receiver before they even get a chance to react to the play. There were a bunch of plays last night where Durant threw immediately after receiving the snap to a receiver already 8 yards into his pattern.

[jeremywilhelm]

Of course they keep doing it. They keep getting away with it. I don't think any coach in the league wouldn't keep doing it if they had the chance.

It's not the Stamps don't get away with their own little cheats in each game. I'm sure their are a couple rules the flaunt as needed.

[arloiginla]

Originally Posted by chummer

Show proof then.You're questioning the integrity of officials here.What's in it for them? Your conspiracy theory makes no sense.

I never questioned the integrity of the officials. They have no idea what's going on. All the league does is tell them to crack down on certain players since they may be "examples" of how a certain rule is bent.

Example: league sends memo to refs as follows (paraphrasing, without the cordial business lingo)

"We want to crack down on hand-fighting and jersey tugs while the football is in the air on forward passes. Players who consistently get away with this include Brandon Browner and Dwight Anderson. Please ensure that every kind of contact on receivers is called as we want to call a perfect by-the-rules game in the playoffs and Grey Cup."

Bingo. League accomplishes mission...they've done nothing wrong technically, and no official would be the wiser.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by arloiginla

I never questioned the integrity of the officials. They have no idea what's going on. All the league does is tell them to crack down on certain players since they may be "examples" of how a certain rule is bent.

Example: league sends memo to refs as follows (paraphrasing, without the cordial business lingo)

"We want to crack down on hand-fighting and jersey tugs while the football is in the air on forward passes. Players who consistently get away with this include Brandon Browner and Dwight Anderson. Please ensure that every kind of contact on receivers is called as we want to call a perfect by-the-rules game in the playoffs and Grey Cup."

Bingo. League accomplishes mission...they've done nothing wrong technically, and no official would be the wiser.

I think you overrate the "ratings bonanza" that is getting the riders into the grey cup. The grey cup ratings are fairly consistent with the one exception being last year, but they changed the ratings system and in most cases (like hockey) ratings doubled.

The league does not have an agenda.