[Rumour] Dreger: Bowen Byram trade talks heating up. Calgary one of many teams interested

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Boomer did seem confident, but I'm less sold.

He was also stating it was being reported by others like Dreger...who never said offer sheet but said trade.

My guess is Pinder had it more correct where he was saying it was more the threat of the offer sheet and the overall trade discussion.

If Buffalo thought the Flames were actually going to give an offer sheet that potentially would have them giving up an unprotected first then I don't think they are taking Byram to arbitration lol...think they'd let that happen.

Its been stated by many Calgary and Buffalo are not good trade partners.

Buffalo wants now pieces and Calgary wants to trade futures.

They missed on Miller who went for a 1st, 2nd and top prospect. Wonder what he was willing to give up likely something similar minus the prospect.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Where do you think Boomer would have gotten that rumor from? He's probably as good an insider as anyone with the connections he has on the team.

Just seems weird he would state that unless he was really confident.

Yeah I never really see Boomer say anything like this so confidently.

He doesn't really flaunt inside knowledge, so him confidently saying this makes me believe.it.


But regardless, it didn't happen (thankfully)


Byram offersheet would have been terrible. Hopefully Flames management has the same thoughts

[howard_the_duck]

Boomer doesn't often speak up about his connections to the team but seemed pretty confident in his intel.

2026 first being in the mix for Bowen Byram is bananas.

Even in a whiff here, I don't understand the plan.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Rumors with fake outrage during the summer are the worst.

Judging a GM on rumors and things that might have happened but didn’t is crazy. But whatever floats your boat I guess.

There is a slight chance that Boomer isn’t as connected as some want to believe.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Boomer doesn't often speak up about his connections to the team but seemed pretty confident in his intel.

2026 first being in the mix for Bowen Byram is bananas.

It was likely in the mix for Kandre Miller as well.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Was he getting Miller for free?

He already traded a 2nd for a cap dump and Frost.

Conroy was probably told by Maloney and Edwards its time to spend picks.

I am sure he told them he is not trading picks since he has not traded picks. If trading a 2nd for a 25 year old former first round pick and a 24 year old former first round pick is some sort of "time to spend picks" signal it is certainly a weak ass signal.

5 million bucks a year with today's cap for a guy who averaged 47 points per 82 games for the 4 previous seasons before having an off year last year is definitely not a cap dump. If he gets over 40 points next year (almost certainly will) he will be right in line with what 40+ point players get paid in today's NHL.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

It was likely in the mix for Kandre Miller as well.

It was almost certainly not in the mix for either.

[SuperMatt18]

Yeah that trade was way more about weaponizing cap space than it was about taking on bad salary.

A good season from Frost or Farabee and you can easily recoup that 2nd

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

It was likely in the mix for Kandre Miller as well.

You’re just chuckin darts here. Which is fine. But just chuckin darts

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Rumors with fake outrage during the summer are the worst.

Judging a GM on rumors and things that might have happened but didn’t is crazy. But whatever floats your boat I guess.

There is a slight chance that Boomer isn’t as connected as some want to believe.

In a slow summer of moves, with multiple different deals and sources citing the Flames looking to part with significant packages, it's all we've got to go off of.

All of the different sources spell the same thing. The Flames are allegedly willing to part with their own futures even in a potentially franchise altering draft. It's not nothing.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

It was almost certainly not in the mix for either.

Stop acting like you know everthing. Miller was traded for 1st 2nd and Morrow. Calgary was the reported front runner, I am sure they would have closed with 3rd rounders.

Stop runing everything thread with your BS.

[traptor]

They didnt do it so that's a win for the flames in my books

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Stop acting like you know everthing. Miller was traded for 1st 2nd and Morrow. Calgary was the reported front runner, I am sure they would have closed with 3rd rounders.

Stop runing everything thread with your BS.

You actually think that the 2026 Calgary First was in play for Miller when it has been confirmed in this thread that it was never in play to the best of one of our actually insiders knowledge for Byram?

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

It’s been stated they want a good team who is competitive to open the new building.

We got 2 years. Need to start pushing some guys out and adding assets and hopefully picking high enough to get a couple young stars.

It would have been better if they ripped the bandaid off earlier.

speaking of knowing everything, any update on which bandaids should have been ripped off earlier? Conroy inherited a lineup with 11 tradable veteran assets, he moved 7 of them in the first 12 months, re-signed one and did not move 3 of them. Which bandaids did he fail to rip off earlier? Specific examples would be great.

[Knut]

Also. Of the 3. I think Rhett knows people in Buffalo’s management. He might have fed the info to Boomer from the Buffalo side of it.

[dino7c]

Lol big shocker at which posters are freaking out about a rumor that didnt happen.

Also, barnburner is getting pretty click-baity

[Bonded]

It’s weird only Boomer has this one. I feel like it would have been leaked out by someone else first. I can’t see the Flames giving up their 2026 1st and keeping a pile of cap space. The only rumoured moves are here for long term defensemen and their forward core still sucks.
I’m skeptical on this one.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

I agree strongly with this post. I will also add that any time someone has a different opinion from "the clique" they accuse you of having multiple accounts or being a banned user. They pounce like vultures.

Because they can't see how people could possibly have a different opinion from them. I just hope going forward people are more open minded to new ideas. These are all just opinions and there are likely some valid points in most posts whether positive or negative.

Huh. Who is this "they" of which you speak (not to mention "the clique")?


It's clear that there are a few people here who know each other (not me!) but I don't think it's very many?

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Stop acting like you know everthing. Miller was traded for 1st 2nd and Morrow. Calgary was the reported front runner, I am sure they would have closed with 3rd rounders.

Stop runing everything thread with your BS.

Something something pot calling the kettle...

[HighLifeMan]

"Insiders" now more than ever are simply being used as a tool in an attempt to create leverage by agents or opposing teams, and at some point people will start realizing that.

Judging a GM on what supposedly didn't happen vs what has actually happened is simply nonsense.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

5 million bucks a year with today's cap for a guy who averaged 47 points per 82 games for the 4 previous seasons before having an off year last year is definitely not a cap dump. If he gets over 40 points next year (almost certainly will) he will be right in line with what 40+ point players get paid in today's NHL.

He had 25 points last year, and with Calgary, had 6 points in 31 games, less than a 16 point pace.

40+ point is far from a certainty.

To Philly, he was certainly a cap dump.