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Old 10-22-2023, 07:53 PM   #1081
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Woah. Hamilton and Leclerc just got DQd from race today for excessive plank wear.

In reading a bit more it sounds like the parc ferme rules need to be broken if a team is concerned. Which was after FP1. So the wear may have come from the sprint race.

I think the parc ferme rules need to be looked at. Not sure why teams shouldn't be able to adjust cars whenever they want provided they are always on compliance.

Sargeant was the big winner...lol. First F1 point.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...eWxWOhw0a.html
The most important outcome here is that I move from 1 slotted to 3 slotted.
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Old 10-22-2023, 10:43 PM   #1082
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Some pictures of the strip getting ready for F1. The night picture is on Harmon, where they will be turning left at the Cosmopolitan Hotel.
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The most important outcome here is that I move from 1 slotted to 3 slotted.
Gah! Takes me from 3 to 1. I had the podium nailed! Robbery!
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Old 10-23-2023, 01:44 PM   #1084
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I have to wonder about the future of Austin. They can't seem to figure the bumps out, maybe that's the way it's going to be forever?
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I have a feeling the Vegas GP is going to suck. Cold temperatures, and a street circuit that looks not great. Doesn't feel like a recipe for a good race.
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Old 10-23-2023, 01:54 PM   #1086
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Kinda thinking it will be like Monaco without the history.

Seeing F1 cars rip down the strip will be cool nonetheless.

We have friends who live in Summerlin and will likely do the race next year depending on how awful it is.
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I have a feeling the Vegas GP is going to suck. Cold temperatures, and a street circuit that looks not great. Doesn't feel like a recipe for a good race.
Yeah I feel the same. I wonder how the average Las Vegas citizen feels about it?
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Old 10-24-2023, 02:07 AM   #1088
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Yeah I feel the same. I wonder how the average Las Vegas citizen feels about it?
The cold temps are a concern. Who knows about the track. That’s something that’s history has proven is baseless speculation. Some of the most beloved pure racing circuits regularly produce garbage races. And the most manufactured circuits with no history produce amazing nail biters.


As for Vegas citizens, who cares? The strip isn’t for them. The whole town exists because of tourists. I’m sure if they had their choice, many things about Vegas would be different. Tourist cities often have a love hate with tourist attractions. If they didn’t want to live in a town that caters to tourists, they probably shouldn’t have moved to Vegas.
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I don't think you are wrong, but where do the adjustments stop? Teams will very quickly adapt a bunch of trick parts just for quali.

Parc ferme regs have largely been unchanged since they were introduced which was before the budget cap.

Excessive plank wear is most affected by ride height. I guess they could mark the floors to make sure they are using the same one, but virtually impossible to police.
Simple, teams must keep all of the same parts on the car, but you can change/adjust them. Front/rear flaps, springs, etc. If a team wants to take a chance on adjusting setups for different conditions etc, let them. Teams will make mistakes and weather will change...it'll spice it up. I think they're only allowed to change front wing and tire pressures IIRC.

I also didnt think that planks needed to last an entire weekend. To me they should absolutely be allowed to change every session, but must be in compliance after each session.
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Old 10-24-2023, 11:27 AM   #1090
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USA Boring GP results are in...

Post BS-DQ results (aka the real ones)...congrats to bizaro86 who got 3 slotted and 6 top 10. There was a 5 way tie for 2nd with 2&6.

Bizaro jumps back ahead of Mccree for 2nd spot and has a 3pt lead and trails DoubleK by 18 for top spot.

Jepworth this was your 2nd miss now...

Next up is Mexico...this week, so get your picks in.

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Pre-DQ results...for those interested
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Old 10-24-2023, 11:35 AM   #1091
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I went from tied for first to...tied for second. Lost 6 points too!
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Old 10-24-2023, 11:36 AM   #1092
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No Mikey, no, this was so not right!
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Old 10-24-2023, 11:39 AM   #1093
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I don't really like how the sprint weekend is setup. I think they should do an extended FP1 on Friday, then the sprint shootout. Sprint race Saturday morning and the end of parc firme. Then a 30 minute practice, and second parc firme for qualy. This keeps the sprint stuff together, and the race stuff together, with a small practice session to optimize the car if you got it wrong for the sprint.


They could also just do away with parc firme until Saturday qualy to give teams for opportunity to adjust.
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Old 10-24-2023, 12:05 PM   #1094
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Apparently they only checked the plank on the front 4 finishers, and 2/4 failed. Seems really weird to not check all finishers, though perhaps it's a bit more involved to check.

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I don't really like how the sprint weekend is setup. I think they should do an extended FP1 on Friday, then the sprint shootout. Sprint race Saturday morning and the end of parc firme. Then a 30 minute practice, and second parc firme for qualy. This keeps the sprint stuff together, and the race stuff together, with a small practice session to optimize the car if you got it wrong for the sprint.


They could also just do away with parc firme until Saturday qualy to give teams for opportunity to adjust.
Just make Saturday morning Sprint Quali an open test session that also serves as quali. Basically how Quali was pre 2005. Parc Ferme at the end.
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Old 10-24-2023, 01:30 PM   #1095
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Pre-DQ results...for those interested
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I was about to post a congrats to you for picking the entire podium slotted when I saw the news about the double DQ.

Can't say I'm personally disappointed given the benefit to me, but it's a bummer for you. I don't recall anyone successfully picking 1-2-3 yet this year?
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Old 10-25-2023, 09:28 AM   #1096
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Stupid Planks cost me 2nd place. haha
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Old 10-25-2023, 10:08 AM   #1097
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I have a super busy Friday so I'm getting this in early. Might edit late Friday if I have time.

Verstappen
Norris
Hamilton
Saintz
Perez
Leclerc
Russell
Piastri
Gasly
Alonso

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Old 10-25-2023, 12:01 PM   #1098
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It's Mexico intro time!

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