What was even the “plan” for them at that gala event anyways? They made a big stink about having to get everybody in to it and then literally the only person who did anything was Picard. Everyone else just stood around.
Raffi might be the all time worst Trek character too. Just so obnoxious and annoying in every scene, doesn’t do anything to help or advance the plot…
What was even the “plan” for them at that gala event anyways? They made a big stink about having to get everybody in to it and then literally the only person who did anything was Picard. Everyone else just stood around.
Raffi might be the all time worst Trek character too. Just so obnoxious and annoying in every scene, doesn’t do anything to help or advance the plot…
Jurati faked the IDs and 7 of 9 is workin' the room.
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When Agnes started singing, my wife (not a trekky at all, but she is willing to watch Picard for me) turned to me and said WTF is this? Is this a joke episode like in Lucifer?
I explained to her that singing and campiness is pretty typical of trek episodes, but the more i thought about it the more mad it made me. I accept and actually come to appreciate the campy, silly, character building moments that might included singing main cast characters in old star trek. The main reason I can accept it is that there is like 30+ episodes of 1 hour in each season of these shows. The actors put their souls into it, they deserve to have some fun in the roles and do weird silly things like holodeck episdoes where they're all spies or running a heist or whatever.
The characters in a 9-10 episode 35 minute run time "movie", how I currently see the series, don't have the depth to have a random singing outburst (even controlled by the borg queen).
Also, how could Picard not know and be extremely wary of Agnes post original borg queen encounter? The characters are acting far stupider than they should about the threat that single encounter posed.
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We've seen singing in almost every Star Trek, the horrible Picard and Data duet during Insurrection made a really crappy movie even worse.
Sisko singing in the series finale of DS9. The doctor in Voyager.
By the way, Pat Benatar probably wants to punch the show runners in the face.
Again, I can forgive it in the old series where we had 30+ hours/ season worth of screen time and other stuff to help smooth it out. I agree it was an intolerable part of Insurrection, and likewise it's an intolerable part of this series. IMO it's a way for the actors to have a break from the harshness of playing these rigid characters so much and add some different levels to them. When there's already too much story for the screentime in the show, these types of trivial outbreaks (and the whole "heist" style plotline of sneaking into the awards show in general) is such an unnecessary gratuity.
I am really starting to be a curmudgeon fan but I just can't stand some of this.
edit: in summary, I see that sort of episode/ plotline as a "this is getting stale, we need some fun" type of plotline and episode. But this is a limited series, a very confusing and turbulent story line, and frankly none of us are comfortable enough with any of the characters (even the returnees, who have changed since their original characterizations) to find them stale. We don't even know anything about them. E.g. Seven and Raffi are meant to be in a relationship right? How much screentime has this ever been given outside of a few mentions to create awkward tension? yet they have time for a 2 minute agnes song?
Stupid, stupid, moronic writing.
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Again, I can forgive it in the old series where we had 30+ hours/ season worth of screen time and other stuff to help smooth it out. I agree it was an intolerable part of Insurrection, and likewise it's an intolerable part of this series. IMO it's a way for the actors to have a break from the harshness of playing these rigid characters so much and add some different levels to them. When there's already too much story for the screentime in the show, these types of trivial outbreaks (and the whole "heist" style plotline of sneaking into the awards show in general) is such an unnecessary gratuity.
I was hoping somebody would shoot her at the start of the song but alas.
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I really hope Strange New Worlds goes back to a creature of the week stand-alone episode format. Those are just more fun. You can have an overall theme and progress to a big bad, but Picard just seems like one episode's worth of story stretched out and divided into 8 or 9 segments. The episodes end randomly and not much happens. I mean two weeks ago one character spent the entire episode on a bus. And don't give me that character development BS. His character did not develop. He was the same guy when he got on the bus that he was when he got off.
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