[Trade] Flames trade 15th OA, 45th OA, and 52nd OA for Dougie Hamilton

[Vinny01]

TJ has 5 years left on his deal that is just starting

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by AC

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/i...-entire-league

Ahh, the old canard of "they should have shopped him around more". That is code for "the GM didn't do his job".

Treliving was on the phone right when the season ended, and "Bruins shopping Hamilton" rumours had persisted for a few days already. The second those rumours started, every GM who hadn't already contacted the Bruins should have been on the phone.

We profited because our GM was on the ball while other teams' management was not.


Whether the B's accepted the best offer they did get is an unknown.

[dying4acup]

Another benefit of this trade is that, suddenly, the Flames prospect pool on D, looks deeper.

Sure it's mostly perception, but, if Wotherspoon and Sieloff both bust, the Flames are fine. Suddenly there is no need for one of the prospects to become a top pair d.

It also doesn't hurt that the Flames picked up D in the second round.

[Muffins]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Ahh, the old canard of "they should have shopped him around more". That is code for "the GM didn't do his job".

Treliving was on the phone right when the season ended, and "Bruins shopping Hamilton" rumours had persisted for a few days already. The second those rumours started, every GM who hadn't already contacted the Bruins should have been on the phone.

We profited because our GM was on the ball while other teams' management was not.


Whether the B's accepted the best offer they did get is an unknown.

Didn't Treliving joke about how he was always working the phones with other GM's, to the point that he's probably annoying them?

I'm wondering if that's part of the reason he was able to get this deal done. Got the ball rolling quickly with Sweeney and made the deal before most other GM's got a chance.

[Beatle17]

Love this trade for the Flames. Everyone crapping on Sweeney, which is partially justified, need to look at the crappy position Chiarelli left the Bruins in capwise. Even after the trades of Lucic, Savard LTIR and RFA Hamliton, the Bruins now have $12M in cap space. They still need to sign 5 forwards and 2 defencemen plus have one of their minor league goalies play.

Now you can see why the Bruins canned Chiarelli, and he will do the same thing to the Oilers within 2 years.

[dying4acup]

Having seen the price for Hamilton, if Chicago was thinking about moving Seabrook, they had to have backed off.

I would still be willing to offer a similar package for Seabrook if this is the relative market value.

I know it's off topic, but, where were the Blackhawks this weekend? They did nothing to reduce their cap pressure.

[dammage79]

Having seen the price for Hamilton, if Chicago was thinking about moving Seabrook, they had to have backed off.

I would still be willing to offer a similar package for Seabrook if this is the relative market value.

I know it's off topic, but, where were the Blackhawks this weekend? They did nothing to reduce their cap pressure.

The Hawks apparently want to wait until after FA frenzy day to maximize their returns as teams lose out on free agents.

[dying4acup]

Originally Posted by dammage79

The Hawks apparently want to wait until after FA frenzy day to maximize their returns as teams lose out on free agents.

Hmmm... Interesting strategy. I can't say I agree with that. Everybody knew this was a deep draft, and the draft is always known to be a sellers market(though nobody told Sweeney).

I wonder if that was the strategy going in, or if they saw where the market was set and backed off.

Allegedly they were asking for the moon in return for Sharp.

[AcGold]

Something is up with this trade, it doesn't really make sense. The Bruins look to be rebuilding but they still have Bergeron, Erikkson, Campbell, Kelly, Talbot, Chara and Seidenberg. It simply doesn't make sense to go into rebuild mode by trading away their best young player while holding on to 7 players near or post apex. Either Dougie wanted out or he has issues we don't know about because logistically the whole thing looks weird. Why do this?

I can't comprehend it, surely it can't be simple incompetence. No GM is that dumb... let's go into rebuild mode by trading our best young player. Don't make sense. Someone would have taken at least a few of their players. And then they trade Lucic and retain salary... wtf man.

[indes]

Originally Posted by dammage79

The Hawks apparently want to wait until after FA frenzy day to maximize their returns as teams lose out on free agents.

Risky move as the price may go up but suitors will go down

[sureLoss]

http://www.csnne.com/boston-bruins/c...-money-so-soon

“The players, and I guess the organization...everybody is within their rights with the way the CBA is. But to me as a coach, I find it very unfortunate that players that have played maybe three years in the league all of a sudden are looking to be up there [in salary] with the top eight players,” said Julien. “I preferred the other way where they worked their way up over the years and had service and everything else.

“But that’s not to say [Hamilton] wasn’t in his right. He was in his right, and he was entitled to do what he did. I’m not standing here blaming him at all. Would we have liked to have kept him? We would have liked to have kept Dougie Hamilton, he’s a good, promising player. But you move on, and you move on in these situations as well.”

Hamilton and his camp had a choice to take less and be part of the team salary structure if he wanted to remain a Bruins, and tacitly uphold the old-school salary system Julien was referring to. It might not be easy or even realistic in today’s NHL to expect players to worry about their money fitting in with team-building, but it also sounds like that is going to be the B’s approach under GM Don Sweeney and the new regime.

[JohnnySkittles]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

http://www.csnne.com/boston-bruins/c...-money-so-soon

Typical old school Bruins, time to get with the times it's 2015.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

http://www.csnne.com/boston-bruins/c...-money-so-soon

So expect them to repeat the Hamilton/Seguin madness with other promising young players in the coming years? I legitimately feel sorry for their fans, that sucks.

[sss1]

Originally Posted by AcGold

Something is up with this trade...Either Dougie wanted out or he has issues we don't know about because logistically the whole thing looks weird. Why do this?

That is exactly what I am trying to comprehend. I have not payed much attention to Hamilton's playing style in the past, so either way I'm not one to judge if he is elite or not. But why would Boston trade this 'stud' for picks? I don't get it. I've been looking online for criticisms of this player and I can't really seem to find anything. Someone somewhere said his IQ is a problem.

Hope he doesn't turn out to be J-Bo part 2.

[Flashpoint]

Hamilton and his camp had a choice to take less and be part of the team salary structure if he wanted to remain a Bruins, and tacitly uphold the old-school salary system Julien was referring to. It might not be easy or even realistic in today’s NHL to expect players to worry about their money fitting in with team-building, but it also sounds like that is going to be the B’s approach under GM Don Sweeney and the new regime.

Get ready to lose a lot of players. Fans in Calgary and Edmonton who remember the 90s know precisely how much loyalty you can expect from players to play with a "team salary structure".

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by sss1

That is exactly what I am trying to comprehend. I have not payed much attention to Hamilton's playing style in the past, so either way I'm not one to judge if he is elite or not. But why would Boston trade this 'stud' for picks? I don't get it. I've been looking online for criticisms of this player and I can't really seem to find anything. Someone somewhere said his IQ is a problem.

Hope he doesn't turn out to be J-Bo part 2.

Look at the 3 rather odd first round picks the Bruins made. They left much higher-rated prospects on the board. Whenever I've seen the Bruins play recently, I've been impressed by Hamilton. I'm pretty sure there is a requirement that a team disclose injuries at the time of a trade, or risk having the trade voided by the league.

[Gaskal]

Or, you know, Sweeney's just a complete moron.

[YYC in LAX]

I'm somewhere between Option 1 and Option 2. LOVE IT

[Red Slinger]

I wonder if this move, and the comments quoted above,have anything to do with notorious tightwad and hardass Jeremy Jacobs?

[Gaudfather]

Interesting perspective from Darren Haynes..

http://flamesfrom80feet.blogspot.ca/...hts-on_27.html

Here's a look at the young foundation and (potential) core pieces of the Flames and their ages as of Oct. 1, 2015. Listed youngest to oldest, Hamilton falls right in the middle:

- C Sam Bennett, 19
- RW Emile Poirier, 20
- C Sean Monahan, 20
- G Jon Gillies, 21
- LW Johnny Gaudreau, 22
- D Dougie Hamilton, 22
- C Markus Granlund, 22
- D Tyler Wotherspoon, 22
- LW Micheal Ferland, 23
- G Joni Ortio, 24
- D TJ Brodie, 25
- LW Lance Bouma, 25
- C Mikael Backlund, 26