Stabbing in Brentwood-5 Dead, 1 Arrested

[T@T]

Originally Posted by sun

You don't see why your viewpoint is so hard to understand because you are incapable of seeing the point of view of one who disagrees with you. You assume they do not "understand" your pea-brained ramblings. We understand... we just think you are narrow-minded, wrong, and incapable of logical reason.

You do a terrible job of presenting your opinion and then get pissy when people lay the smack down.

You want to be taken seriously? You want people to "understand" your point of view? Try understanding theirs. Try making a point about religion without calling your opposing debaters "thumpers". That might be a good start.

No sir, I present my opinion and could care less about dingbats who get so pissy that they even had to change my username like a child. And please show me where I took a smack down on religion! the thumpers(like you?) never debate me and never will.

Even this tragedy likely never happens with the B.S called religion. remember this? 'The son of God was controlling me'-de Grood, May 16, 2016


I'm not the only one who doesn't want to see someone who slaughtered 5 people ever see freedom, if you can't understand that it's my opinion and my voice on the subject then please use the button provided by this forum called "ignore"

I won't miss your drive by trivial comments.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

I am not religious in the least bit, I can't believe that you're so ignorant to blame religion for someone having a psychotic break.

[HarryH93]

Why was T@T ever un-banned?

[Mr.Coffee]

I agree, let's just ban everyone that doesn't agree with the broader group. That way we don't have to put up with any challenging thoughts or ideas.

[GGG]

Once deemed rehabilitated by a mental health doctors i think life time medication monitoring plus ankle bracelet monitoring is a reasonable compromise between public safety and reintegration.

I think it meets the do everything reasonably possible to ensure he doesn't offend again while balancing humane treatment of a sick individual.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I agree, let's just ban everyone that doesn't agree with the broader group. That way we don't have to put up with any challenging thoughts or ideas.

Well, to be fair, I am still here.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by GGG

Once deemed rehabilitated by a mental health doctors i think life time medication monitoring plus ankle bracelet monitoring is a reasonable compromise between public safety and reintegration.

I think it meets the do everything reasonably possible to ensure he doesn't offend again while balancing humane treatment of a sick individual.

How does that work?

You can't force someone to take medication unless they are under your direct supervision and you are able to monitor them every single day/dosage.

Impossible task IMO without relying on the patient to self regulate. Since we hear story after story of how the meds make people feel terrible, there is no way in Hades that is something worth risking in lieu of public safety.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by peter12

Well, to be fair, I am still here.

Probably not for long though so better shape up quick.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

I am not religious in the least bit, I can't believe that you're so ignorant to blame religion for someone having a psychotic break.

Why am I the ignorant one?, de Grood is the one blaming religion on his actions when he claimed Jesus made him do it!

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Probably not for long though so better shape up quick.

Really think it's his opinion that's the problem, and not the way he states it?

Arrogance coupled with world class ignorance isn't exactly a charming combination.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by T@T

Why am I the ignorant one?, de Grood is the one blaming religion on his actions when he claimed Jesus made him do it!

So you think it's Religion that caused this, not his mental health issue? He also blamed Vampires. Look at the root cause, not the sad reasoning of a broken mind.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Really think it's his opinion that's the problem, and not the way he states it?

Arrogance coupled with world class ignorance isn't exactly a charming combination.

That may be but it doesn't mean he has to be banned. Same with moon, ricardow, Lanny, etc.

A differing opinion, or a perceived ignorant one shouldn't warrant a ban. And I'm not reading his opinion as arrogant as much as I am he just seems unwilling to open his eyes. Again not sure that is ban worthy but just my two cents. Anyway a bit off topic sorry about that.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by T@T

Why am I the ignorant one?, de Grood is the one blaming religion on his actions when he claimed Jesus made him do it!

David Berkowitz said his neighbour's dog made him do it. If we follow your logic, we should blame the dog. Without the dog's influence, he wouldn't have killed all those people.

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by peter12

Well, to be fair, I am still here.

We need someone here who can address questions about shoe trees and $500 belts.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by transplant99

How does that work?

You can't force someone to take medication unless they are under your direct supervision and you are able to monitor them every single day/dosage.

Impossible task IMO without relying on the patient to self regulate. Since we hear story after story of how the meds make people feel terrible, there is no way in Hades that is something worth risking in lieu of public safety.

Yes, they show up at x time to take their medication, you confirm its been swallowed / injected then the person goes about their day. If they don't show up you arrest them and they go to Jail. I don't see why that task is impossible.

Supervised medication is a requirement of Vincent Li's release.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Really think it's his opinion that's the problem, and not the way he states it?

Arrogance coupled with world class ignorance isn't exactly a charming combination.

World class ignorance?? Me?

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by peter12

World class ignorance?? Me?

Obviously he isn't talking about you

[jayswin]

Tranny, I'm not sure I understand your motive here, or maybe you missed some posts? First you stated that until we find a way to allow mentally ill, potentially violent patients then they shouldn't be allowed to interact in society.

So I posted about one of Canada's most infamous criminal cases ever, and how it was an exact case of a patient being rehabilitated and monitored for drug treatment for life. Then another poster posted an article on it which describes exactly how he's monitored and takes the drugs necessary to keep him normal.

Then you ignore all that and respond to another poster who mentioned the daily monitoring, which again we have an exact example of this happening with Vincent Lee, and you respond with

How does that work?

You can't force someone to take medication unless they are under your direct supervision and you are able to monitor them every single day/dosage.

Impossible task IMO without relying on the patient to self regulate. Since we hear story after story of how the meds make people feel terrible, there is no way in Hades that is something worth risking in lieu of public safety.

Like I honestly don't understand what you're going for here.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

We need someone here who can address questions about shoe trees and $500 belts.

Goodness.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by transplant99

How does that work?

You can't force someone to take medication unless they are under your direct supervision and you are able to monitor them every single day/dosage.

Impossible task IMO without relying on the patient to self regulate. Since we hear story after story of how the meds make people feel terrible, there is no way in Hades that is something worth risking in lieu of public safety.

My girlfriends job is to drive around Vancouver twice a day carrying large quantities of anti psychotic medication for thirty or so patients, she delivers and monitors their med' compliance as part of a community monitoring program, it's cheaper than keeping the patients in hospital. They don't take the med's they get pulled back into hospital that day generally