Craig's List 2014 Prospects

[GettinIggyWithIt]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

If Edmonton can't get Ekblad I think they might go for Draisaitl, so if the Sabres do take Ekblad, Reinhart might still be available when the Flames pick even if Edmonton finishes behind Calgary.

Although, odds are that Sabres won't retain the first pick with the new draft lottery format.

It'll be an interesting draft. The Sabres don't need a dman so you would expect them to pick Reinhart. Edmonton needs a dman and so they should pick Ekblad if the Sabres pick anyone but Ekblad. But if Ekblad isn't available do you go with Reinhart or Bennett or do you pick based on better fit (Drasaitl, Dal Colle?). I think this could make picks 3-5 interesting.

[ForeverFlameFan]

I won't be surprised if Calgary somehow manages to get the 6th pick again, continuing the streak of no top 5 pick.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by GettinIggyWithIt

It'll be an interesting draft. The Sabres don't need a dman so you would expect them to pick Reinhart. Edmonton needs a dman and so they should pick Ekblad if the Sabres pick anyone but Ekblad. But if Ekblad isn't available do you go with Reinhart or Bennett or do you pick based on better fit (Drasaitl, Dal Colle?). I think this could make picks 3-5 interesting.

I think if the Sabres end up with the top pick they could trade down and since I don't think they will want to trade down very far I think it puts the Flames in a good situation to try and acquire the pick from them.

But if the Flames end up with the #3 pick, what will the cost be to move up? Will it be worth it? I don't think our 2nd would be enough to get it done.

[Enoch Root]

If the Flames are in the 3rd or 4th spot, and have another 1st round pick (from Cammy or whatever), I could see a package with the 2 first round picks for Buffalo's pick.

I could see the Flames going hard for Ekblad and the Sabres wanting as many firsts as possible.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

If the Flames are in the 3rd or 4th spot, and have another 1st round pick (from Cammy or whatever), I could see a package with the 2 first round picks for Buffalo's pick.

I could see the Flames going hard for Ekblad and the Sabres wanting as many firsts as possible.

Antoher possibility would be a forward prospect. Perhaps the 3rd overall and Baertschi for the 1st overall and one of the Sabres previously acquired (Minnesota or Los Angeles) 2nd round picks?

[stemit14]

Hopefully the flames don't over pay cause Edmonton is going to want ekblad as well. Makes for a bidding war.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Antoher possibility would be a forward prospect. Perhaps the 3rd overall and Baertschi for the 1st overall and one of the Sabres previously acquired (Minnesota or Los Angeles) 2nd round picks?

I would rather do Backlund than Sven. We have an abundance of 2 way C's now.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I would rather do Backlund than Sven. We have an abundance of 2 way C's now.

Did you really just say that?

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I would rather do Backlund than Sven. We have an abundance of 2 way C's now.

I'm not sure the Sabres bite at that. It also never hurts to have too many centres as you can trade one or move one to the wing.

I am kind of hoping to see both Backlund and Colborne on the wings next year (with Monahan centering them) and Knight given a shot as the 3rd line centre.

but I am starting to derail, so I digress. So back to the topic at hand.....

My top 5 is Reinhart, Ekblad and Draisaitl/Dal Colle/Bennett

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

If the Flames are in the 3rd or 4th spot, and have another 1st round pick (from Cammy or whatever), I could see a package with the 2 first round picks for Buffalo's pick.

I could see the Flames going hard for Ekblad and the Sabres wanting as many firsts as possible.

This seems realistic. However, we'll have to see how we play for the last part of the season. I have a feeling we are going to play decent enough to be 5 or 6. We're not tankers.

[GettinIggyWithIt]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I think if the Sabres end up with the top pick they could trade down and since I don't think they will want to trade down very far I think it puts the Flames in a good situation to try and acquire the pick from them.

But if the Flames end up with the #3 pick, what will the cost be to move up? Will it be worth it? I don't think our 2nd would be enough to get it done.

I could see that happening. I also think that if a team trades with the Sabres for that top pick and takes Ekblad, then the Oilers could also potentially trade down to take their guy if they think he's still going to be available (Dal Colle, Drasaitl....maybe even Fleury?)

Would it be worth it for the Flames to trade up? I don't know. It would depend on the price like you allude to. I think the top 5 are so close that it isn't really worth it, but that's just my opinion. I agree that it's likely going to cost more than a 2nd rounder. In fact, I think both teams would add to balance the trade.

[GettinIggyWithIt]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Antoher possibility would be a forward prospect. Perhaps the 3rd overall and Baertschi for the 1st overall and one of the Sabres previously acquired (Minnesota or Los Angeles) 2nd round picks?

I could see something along these lines. Buffalo could also potentially just deal one of their existing d prospects if they think Ekblad is the real deal and keep the #1. They may be able to grab another first rounder that way. Pure speculation but it is a possibility.

[djsFlames]

At first I thought there's no way Buffalo would give up their first overall, but this isn't like last year. With the pack of forwards at the top all pretty much shoulder and shoulder in terms of ranking, if we finished third or fourth and offered them our other first, they might consider it. Especially if someone like Dal Colle is who they prefer (but I somehow doubt that).

And people are ridiculous for suggesting we include Sven. ####ing really? To move from Bennett/DC to a Reinhart/Ekblad (which is, according to scouting, only a slight improvement if any at all) is worth Sven? Get the hell out.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

The Oilers do need a 2nd line centre so if the Sabres or whoever else ends up #1 takes Ekblad I do think it makes sense for the Oil to take Reinhart or Bennett. But you never know with the Oilers, they may now overemphasize size.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Did you really just say that?

I did. We have Monahan, Stajan, Knight, Colborne all as 2 way guys and Granlund offensively more gifted and knocking at the door. Backlund has played well this year but this imo is his ceiling, deal him while the getting is good. No way I keep Backlund over Sven.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I did. We have Monahan, Stajan, Knight, Colborne all as 2 way guys and Granlund offensively more gifted and knocking at the door. Backlund has played well this year but this imo is his ceiling, deal him while the getting is good. No way I keep Backlund over Sven.

I don't think he was questioning anything about the players you would prefer to trade.

It was more shock (and lols) that you worded it how you did know how immature the lot of us are.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Hopefully the flames don't over pay cause Edmonton is going to want ekblad as well. Makes for a bidding war.

After their first rounder, the Oilers don't have another pick in this year's draft until San Jose's fourth rounder, which is currently bottom 5.

They'll probably acquire a draft pick for Hemsky, but the Flames should still be able to better any offer the Oilers make for first overall, unless the Oilers offer up one of their "special" kids, which would be an overpayment.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I did. We have Monahan, Stajan, Knight, Colborne all as 2 way guys and Granlund offensively more gifted and knocking at the door. Backlund has played well this year but this imo is his ceiling, deal him while the getting is good. No way I keep Backlund over Sven.

Backlund has been playing like a top 6 forward, as has been the best forward for us lately. Monahan and him are staying on the Flames, don't know why you want to trade him. I have said this before in other threads, but we can't just keep trading our players just because their ceiling is high. You saw Backlund's play once he was given the "A" on his jersey, he is a leader on this team.

We can't trade Stajan because he just signed a contract, Colborne plays just fine on the wing (and I think he plays better on the wing and can step in when one of our centers gets kicked out of the FO circle).

We don't even know if Granlund and Knight's play in the AHL will transfer to the NHL, they are two completely different leagues. I know they playing amazing years as rookies, but you just never know. We've all been hyped on a player as well, (like Sven for example), and he still needs more time. He's playing better, that's for sure.

I am not hating on Sven, I just wouldn't want to trade Backlund, who has proven himself that he can play top line minutes and gives us a better chance of winning games now. I say we don't trade either one. But if I had to choose one, I'd go with Sven. We already have a lot of LWers. I forgot whether or not Sven can play RW.

[GettinIggyWithIt]

Originally Posted by getbak

After their first rounder, the Oilers don't have another pick in this year's draft until San Jose's fourth rounder, which is currently bottom 5.

They'll probably acquire a draft pick for Hemsky, but the Flames should still be able to better any offer the Oilers make for first overall, unless the Oilers offer up one of their "special" kids, which would be an overpayment.

I could see the Oilers offering up a player like Eberle. However, it wouldn't be just to move up or to grab Ekblad. It would be as part of a bigger deal involving a few more pieces. I could be wrong, but my gut says that if a deal is made involving the first few picks, there could be some bigger name players involved as well.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I don't think he was questioning anything about the players you would prefer to trade.

It was more shock (and lols) that you worded it how you did know how immature the lot of us are.

Oh, I see it now.