Cannabis is legal - Page 55 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Matata · 11-06-2018, 02:14 PM

I'm still too paranoid to do anything other than pay cash at a store, I also noticed most of the 'clean-cut' crowd doing this too. I like going to the states and don't want to put that at risk.

BlackArcher101 · 11-06-2018, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matata

I'm still too paranoid to do anything other than pay cash at a store, I also noticed most of the 'clean-cut' crowd doing this too. I like going to the states and don't want to put that at risk.

You actually think border agents are somehow going to pull your old credit card statements?

TorqueDog · 11-06-2018, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

You actually think border agents are somehow going to pull your old credit card statements?

One of the effects of certain cannabis strains is paranoia, after all.

Matata · 11-07-2018, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

You actually think border agents are somehow going to pull your old credit card statements?

Crazier stuff has happened when it comes to US law enforcement and weed (much, much, much crazier), it's probably less than 1% chance as long as I don't do anything stupid. I'm already adverse to online sales due to massive packaging and expect store prices to drop, so I don't see it as having to give up much for piece of mind.

Timbo · 11-07-2018, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

You actually think border agents are somehow going to pull your old credit card statements?

Article in the paper 2-3 months ago about how you should avoid buying cannabis with your CC.
CC company’s will and do sell purchase information to interested parties. One of the interested parties is US border services.
So it’s not paranoia it’s just being prudent.

corporatejay · 11-07-2018, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbo

Article in the paper 2-3 months ago about how you should avoid buying cannabis with your CC.
CC company’s will and do sell purchase information to interested parties. One of the interested parties is US border services.
So it’s not paranoia it’s just being prudent.

Source please.

Shazam · 11-07-2018, 08:49 AM

"Here's 14 TB of data, have fun!"

Engine09 · 11-07-2018, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbo

Article in the paper 2-3 months ago about how you should avoid buying cannabis with your CC.
CC company’s will and do sell purchase information to interested parties. One of the interested parties is US border services.
So it’s not paranoia it’s just being prudent.

I've always wondered about this. En route from Montreal to NYC, US border agent asks the purpose of my trip then asked if I was going to a specific show, he was right. 3 days away, tons of shows in the NYC and Boston area and he guessed right. Always wondered if he was lucky or saw my credit card purchases.

Timbo · 11-07-2018, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Source please.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4140898/l...ned-us-border/

Cecil Terwilliger · 11-07-2018, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbo

https://globalnews.ca/news/4140898/l...ned-us-border/

There’s absolutely nothing in that article to support your previous post.

The entire article is a what if scenario. There is no basis in fact or precedence.

Cecil Terwilliger · 11-07-2018, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engine09

I've always wondered about this. En route from Montreal to NYC, US border agent asks the purpose of my trip then asked if I was going to a specific show, he was right. 3 days away, tons of shows in the NYC and Boston area and he guessed right. Always wondered if he was lucky or saw my credit card purchases.

Lucky or had other travellers come through already. I’ve been Asked multiple times if I’m coming down for the exact reason I’m travelling like a sporting event or concert. Sometimes as a guest who didn’t even buy the tickets and before etickets were a thing. Border guard would literally have no idea why I’m travelling even if he had my credit card details. And he still guessed why I was travelling.

llwhiteoutll · 11-07-2018, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbo

https://globalnews.ca/news/4140898/l...ned-us-border/

You've grossly misinterpreted the article.

The CBP is not interested in buying Canadian CC records and the CC companies certainly are not selling them to the CBP. Mainly because if the CBP wanted Canadian CC data, they wouldn't have to buy it.

The concern (and probably a miniscule one) is that the CC companies can store their data in the US and per US law, there is no need for LE to get a warrant in order to request the records of a non-US citizen.

Even then, the odds of CBP putting together a database of all Canadian CC records, updating it daily and then taking the time to use it as a primary screening tool are pretty low. Chances are that if CBP is interested enough in you to go to the hassle of getting the records, you're already in a bunch of trouble.

Matata · 11-07-2018, 10:46 AM

I'm more worried for the future, in the current climate it seems an unlikely thing, but these records are permanent and who know how things are going to look 20 years down the road. As the old saying goes "everything is great until it isn't".

Cecil Terwilliger · 11-07-2018, 12:41 PM

It’s all a moot point anyways because your credit card statement just says AGLC on it. You’re more likely to get busted when the border patrol agent looks through your text messages or goes through your email.

Matata · 11-07-2018, 12:49 PM

There would need to be a lot of different items that show up as AGLC to dilute the waters and I'm not sure if that is the case. Even then all it takes is for the border to decide that anyone with a bunch of purchases in the $10-$100 range from AGLC gets flagged as a pot head.

bigtmac19 · 11-07-2018, 01:29 PM

45,000 Ontario Cannabis Store customers had some of their personal information stolen after a hack at Canada Post. This happened on November 1. They claim no credit card info was obtained.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...ders-1.4895619

undercoverbrother · 11-07-2018, 01:30 PM

Isn't this why it is a cash industry in Colorado?

At least I am sure it was a few years ago when I was there.

Coach · 11-07-2018, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Isn't this why it is a cash industry in Colorado?

At least I am sure it was a few years ago when I was there.

Thats because weed is still illegal on a federal level so there aren't really opportunities for them to deal with proper business channels.

8sPOT · 11-07-2018, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Isn't this why it is a cash industry in Colorado?

At least I am sure it was a few years ago when I was there.

Think that's more to do with the fact it isn't legal at the Federal level. So banks are hesitant to get involved. The bigger banks anyways.

Honestly if the US doesn't want to let me in for consuming cannabis then so be it. Seems pretty dumb when they have a dozen states where its legal.

On a brighter note, after some research I ordered a Pax2 vaporizer, so thats pretty exciting

Parallex · 11-07-2018, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach

Thats because weed is still illegal on a federal level so there aren't really opportunities for them to deal with proper business channels.

That's precisely why.

Quote:

But because Uruguay's economy runs on dollars, most pharmacies are routed through US banks. Those banks are forbidden by US law to serve accounts that "involve the manufacture, importation, sale, or distribution of a controlled substance."

"The big US-based banks sent a memo to their Uruguayan counterparts, telling them they'd have to close their accounts if they proceeded," Walsh said.

The existing pharmacies are left to resort to cash-only transactions, similar to the situation in US states like Colorado and Washington, which are managing legal marijuana industries of their own.

https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/16/new...try/index.html