2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

The answers are in the room, and the hope is still real.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1380582146377539585

totally delusional to believe the playoffs are still in the picture. Especially with the results he's been getting personally.

[Muffins]

Still have a chance?

Isn't 37 a little young to be going senile Mark?

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

So you agree exactly with what I originally said, that we should offer Sam Bennett for him but shouldn't pay any futures?

Did you read or just get angry that we were suggesting trading for him? Jeesh.

Didn't see your post, so no. Responded to Tkachkwagon's post. I wouldn't trade for him. I think Bennett is worthless and I think Patrick is equally as worthless.

Can you tell me what exactly about Patrick's game that is so tantalizing? Is it his great ability to move the puck? Is it his speed? Is it his shot? Is it his ability to use his line mates? Is it is his defensive awareness? Is it his head for the game? Is it his toughness? What is it that makes him a player worthy of trading for? Beyond his #2 draft status is there anything you know about this guy that says, "yes, the Calgary Flames need to make a trade for him?"

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

The answers are in the room, and the hope is still real.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1380582146377539585

Eh what do you expect the captain to say? “Lol yeah f these losers we’re done for I hope I get traded”?

Until mathematical elimination I’d expect every player to give a similar answer.

[Flamesfan2010]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Trade Ryan at the deadline, trade Monahan for the best top prospect/draft pick package in the offseason, and buy Patrick low. Only have interest in Patrick if it’s super cheap.

Just roll with Lindholm - Backlund - Patrick - 4th C (Gawdin?) during the ‘22 season while we try and figure ourselves out. Sutter could probably do something good with Patrick. Throw money at Couturier or Zibanejad in the ‘22 offseason.

Or trade for Eichel in the off-season, then you have Eichel - Lindholm - Backlund - Patrick. That’s a pretty solid centre group and then build your wings around them.


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[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan2010

Or trade for Eichel in the off-season, then you have Eichel - Lindholm - Backlund - Patrick. That’s a pretty solid centre group and then build your wings around them.


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If possible, absolutely.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan2010

Or trade for Eichel in the off-season, then you have Eichel - Lindholm - Backlund - Patrick. That’s a pretty solid centre group and then build your wings around them.


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I think there is zero chance we can trade for Eichel. What assets do we have? Unless we offer Tkachuk + + +. Even then, not sure it's enough.

[djsFlames]

So does that mean they're going to play out of their minds vs Montreal?

Is that also why they've only really showed up for sixty against the Habs and played like a house of cards since?

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

The answers are in the room, and the hope is still real.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1380582146377539585

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Eh what do you expect the captain to say? “Lol yeah f these losers we’re done for I hope I get traded”?

Until mathematical elimination I’d expect every player to give a similar answer.

It’s funny how many people seem to want players, or the coach or the GM to speak publicly against the team’s interest. It Gio publicly says he wants to be traded, it drives his value down.

I remember people complaining when Bettman, in the course of dealing with Arizona being possibly sold, wouldn’t admit it was a money loser - like that would help get a good buyer.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by chedder

I think there is zero chance we can trade for Eichel. What assets do we have? Unless we offer Tkachuk + + +. Even then, not sure it's enough.

Monahan, Hanifin, Pelletier/Zary and a 1st might be close no?

[CanucksWorstNightmare]

Something like this could work for both teams , draft picks might have to be added to balance things out.

Gaudreau & Bennett to Philly
Konecny & Patrick to Flames

Bennett is a Philly kind of player

[FlamesAddiction]

I forgot about the migraine thing. I think that if it was something he could overcome, it would have happened by now. I’d save Bennett to see if he could be used as bait for something else.

[Sandman]

Philly saw fit to trade Schenn when they secured Patrick's services-I'm sure they wanted some cap room too, but that's how much they thought of him. They saw him as an immediate top-6 C, with Couturier.

I wish there was still a player there-I would love a scenario where we got him cheap, then he somehow became the #1C we have needed for decades, but it won't happen.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by aaronkarlpatton

anyone want the flames to trade with the sens for...egor? big somewhat skilled young.
https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/...14&encode=TRUE

I would love to grab this guy-big, right shooting C, but I don't think Ottawa would easily part with him. He's doing quite well in the AHL for a first year player, too.

Side note: he played with our Ryan Francis last year in Cape Breton....

[442scotty]

Originally Posted by CanucksWorstNightmare

Something like this could work for both teams , draft picks might have to be added to balance things out.

Gaudreau & Bennett to Philly
Konecny & Patrick to Flames

Bennett is a Philly kind of player

If Patrick had migraines before, Calgary would finish him off

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

Monahan, Hanifin, Pelletier/Zary and a 1st might be close no?

Monny will not be the centrepiece of a Eichel trade. He needs to prove that he can still play a meaningful role in this league.


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[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by New Era

Not when a guy is coming off of missing a year of professional hockey and has come back to completely #### the bed. There is a reason why the Flyers are "shopping him hard" and no one is biting. People that watch hockey can see what Patrick brings to the table. He is not the sum of his parts, and then comes with a time bomb of a neurological condition that could sideline him for an undisclosed amount of time. Competent GMs will be looking at him and running in the other direction.

The fact that he missed a year actually is a point in his favour, as he may have an excuse for being so rusty.

Look, I think his chances of being great is pretty slim. But if he comes cheaply, what do the Flames have to lose? It’s not like the Flames are going anywhere fast. They can certainly give him an opportunity.

He’s still very young and has missed a lot of time. He has at least proven himself healthy this year. As long as the acquisition price is low.


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[chedder]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

Monahan, Hanifin, Pelletier/Zary and a 1st might be close no?

Yikes. Not sure today's Monahan would be something they'd even want. And talk about leaving the cupboards bare.

[ComixZone]

Treliving on the Fan 960:

- I'd caution everyone, it's just a date on the calendar. There will be trades, but you need to keep in mind that if you're moving players out you need teams that want those players
- contracts beyond this year are problematic
- expansion draft in the summer adds complications
- quiet on the Flames front
- If something happens, it happens, if it doesn't, it doesn't.
- We won't openly discuss what we'll do with our free agents
- They've expressed what their appetite is league-wide
- Pat asks him about Gio: "Yeah I'm not going to get into any players"
- Re-iterates he's not going to talk about any players

I suppose this is where we say "What else is he supposed to say?"

When looking at the 2020/2021 season, I genuinely think Brad Treliving may have been the worst general manager in the league. He spent big in free agency, hired a new coach, fired that new coach, hired a new coach, the team is worse under this newest coach than the one he hired in the off-season, and the team is now bottom-5 in the league. A truly impressive train wreck.