American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Hoping Musk gets deported and banned from US entry- that’d be amazing.

No! That would be all kinds of awful awful awful awful awful... that dingus has Canadian citizenship, if Trumpworld were to find some way to deport him he'd be bringing his weirdass ####ery here. No thank you, they can keep him.

[Wormius]

Meh. I am just pessimistic. This is some pretend spat to mess around with markets. They make up, everything rises back up again.

[Winsor_Pilates]

To think just 2 months ago Canada was heading for PP as PM, and Elon & Trump were running the USA. It was a bigot utopia.

Although we don't know the fallout of this feud, things feel a little lighter right now vs the awful that was earlier this year.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Meh. I am just pessimistic. This is some pretend spat to mess around with markets. They make up, everything rises back up again.

I'd agree if it weren't for the Epstein tweet. That felt a bit too much for a pretend spat, but maybe I'm just naive.

[Barnet Flame]

Yeah, there’s no way either of them would say something that extreme.

[Ashartus]

Originally Posted by devo22

I'd agree if it weren't for the Epstein tweet. That felt a bit too much for a pretend spat, but maybe I'm just naive.

Did anyone think Trump's name wouldn't be in the Epstein files somewhere?

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Barnet Flame

Yeah, there’s no way either of them would say something that extreme.

All it would take for the cult is a simple tweet by trump/elon stating that they were both hotheaded at the time and have talked about it and are great friends again.

All of it goes away.

100% of the cult know Trump is in the Epstein files anyway - they just don't care or they explain it away.

Nothing matters.

[The Yen Man]

Yah, lets be honest. MAGA doesn't care if Trump's a pedo or that Elon's a Nazi. As long as they're owning the libs, they'll be happy to continue to either ignore it, or whataboutism it away.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Ashartus

Did anyone think Trump's name wouldn't be in the Epstein files somewhere?

nah, but Space Karen announcing it like that is still different than everybody just presuming.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

All it would take for the cult is a simple tweet by trump/elon stating that they were both hotheaded at the time and have talked about it and are great friends again.

All of it goes away.

100% of the cult know Trump is in the Epstein files anyway - they just don't care or they explain it away.

Nothing matters.

I dunno, that might paper over the grand canyon between their differences, but it isn't going to last. They are too stubborn, too reactionary, and too locked in thier own dogmatic positions to ever get along long term. And with guys like Bannon and Miller continually stoking the divide, I don't see any way a reconciliation lasts more than a month. Certainly not four years.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I dunno, that might paper over the grand canyon between their differences, but it isn't going to last. They are too stubborn, too reactionary, and too locked in thier own dogmatic positions to ever get along long term. And with guys like Bannon and Miller continually stoking the divide, I don't see any way a reconciliation lasts more than a month. Certainly not four years.

Let's hope you are right. Truthfully, I hope Trump just dies. But I'll settle for impeachment.

JD doesn't have any charisma, and when he's POTUS, the whole cult will fall apart and hopefully democracy prevails.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Let's hope you are right. Truthfully, I hope Trump just dies. But I'll settle for impeachment.

JD doesn't have any charisma, and when he's POTUS, the whole cult will fall apart and hopefully democracy prevails.

Realistically how do you see the republican controlled house and senate voting to impeach? I can't imagine any scenario where they do and that includes starting a hot war.

Maybe maybe mayyyyyyyyyyyybe if dems take the house back in 2026 they can start the process but it's not clearing the senate. He's not getting impeached and I'm comfortable adding an "ever again" to that. It dies in the house

[bc-chris]

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[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Realistically how do you see the republican controlled house and senate voting to impeach? I can't imagine any scenario where they do and that includes starting a hot war.

Maybe maybe mayyyyyyyyyyyybe if dems take the house back in 2026 they can start the process but it's not clearing the senate. He's not getting impeached and I'm comfortable adding an "ever again" to that. It dies in the house

If this "fight" between Elon & Trump has any substance, it could potentially fracture the party which could lead to the necessary votes.

But I think this spat between them is merely performative and nothing will happen. This is probably just Elon's exit plan from politics because he's bored.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Yah, lets be honest. MAGA doesn't care if Trump's a pedo or that Elon's a Nazi. As long as they're owning the libs, they'll be happy to continue to either ignore it, or whataboutism it away.

That's them in a nutshell, really.

Owning the libs > upholding any moral standards.

Overwhelming fear over any kind of a liberal governance or movement blinds them to any of the same kind of discernment around what their own people are doing.

The old bigoted, patriarchal and racist ways are a security blanket that they find comfort and safety in.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I dunno, that might paper over the grand canyon between their differences, but it isn't going to last. They are too stubborn, too reactionary, and too locked in thier own dogmatic positions to ever get along long term. And with guys like Bannon and Miller continually stoking the divide, I don't see any way a reconciliation lasts more than a month. Certainly not four years.

Reconciliation will last until Elon finds a window

[WideReceiver]

I’ve searched and can’t find this. Has Trump deported any white persons?

[Reggie Dunlop]

As much as it could appear to be performative kayfabe, it was always a partnership of convenience. I think the rift is real.

Trump could, on his say, easily recreate a hundred January 6ths in every state capitol and major city in the country.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Saying Trump is on the Epstein files makes it real to me

[Locke]

I just naturally assumed that Trump was in there years ago. I'd have been more surprised if I'd been told that he wasn't in the file.