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[KTrain]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Maybe he doesn't like you? I'll sometimes misspell somebody's name on purpose to show them I hate them.

I do the same thing Silver.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Raekwon

You are messaging me on teams, my name is right there but you feel the need to spell it wrong every time? I can understand once maybe, or even edit it if you notice it but to consistently spell it wrong is just total disrespect to me. I don't care that its wrong I care that you don't care enough to get it right.

People sometimes call me by my last name, more times than normal but when they do that they spell it right so it doesn't bug me. It's simple respect, we had someone named Christopher, called him Chris once he said he didn't like that so addressed him as Christopher from then on.

Edit: And just to point out its not a hard name its 4 letters . . .

Totally agree. Always address people by their names and get it right.
For example, I learned this in meetings that people don't like to be called, you guys, or these guys. We had a 20 something guy in a meeting keep referring to two older ladies as these guys. "Once I finish my part I'm going to pass it over to these two (pointing) and you guys can look over it." It did not go over well.

Just with a bit of awareness he could have said, "I'm going to take a few days to complete my section and It would be great if Julie and Sandy can have a look over it and finalize it. And if there are any issues, I'd be happy to work together to complete it."

[Sliver]

Fata people who don't like "guys". Snowflake, loser, looking-to-cause-trouble Karens every time. Seriously, go fata yourself if you are offended at a group who's being referred to as "guys". It's our version of y'all, except you don't sound like a hillbilly when you say it.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by KTrain

I do the same thing Silver.

I see what happened here.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Fata people who don't like "guys". Snowflake, loser, looking-to-cause-trouble Karens every time. Seriously, go fata yourself if you are offended at a group who's being referred to as "guys". It's our version of y'all, except you don't sound like a hillbilly when you say it.

You can't change people so these are just the landmines to avoid.

You might think 'guys, gals, y'all" is fine but if they don't, they won't collaborate with you and you won't get anything done. And they're seniors, who's going to win this battle?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

You can't change people so these are just the landmines to avoid.

You might think 'guys, gals, y'all" is fine but if they don't, they won't collaborate with you and you won't get anything done. And they're seniors, who's going to win this battle?

Sliver, easy. I think he could beat up two old women no problem.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Fata people who don't like "guys". Snowflake, loser, looking-to-cause-trouble Karens every time. Seriously, go fata yourself if you are offended at a group who's being referred to as "guys". It's our version of y'all, except you don't sound like a hillbilly when you say it.

I maintain guys AND dudes are gender neutral terms, as long as it is plural.

When it's singular, is masculine though.

[Wormius]

Even though I hate being in the limelight, I really find it annoying when individuals are called out for any kind of accomplishments at work, but when there is something that I was solely responsible for, it's kudos to the the "xyz team". If not for some modesty and humbleness, I just want to raise my hand up and say "nope, that was 99% me!"

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

You can't change people so these are just the landmines to avoid.

You might think 'guys, gals, y'all" is fine but if they don't, they won't collaborate with you and you won't get anything done. And they're seniors, who's going to win this battle?

Meh, I like stepping in those landmines. I know "guys" isn't fine anymore in some lame circles, but in my life it's not a career-limiting move to dig in on being all, 'GFY for getting offended at something non-offensive.'

IDK why, but people usually find it funny if you don't get all apologetic. I did send a boomer woman home crying once when I offended her, but I refused to apologize other than to patronize her with, "I'm sorry you feel that way" & "I'm sorry you interpreted what I did as anything other than fun."

It's also interesting that it can be a bit of an alpha move that people - for some weird reason - respect. Like, if you get all hat-in-hand apologetic for your terrible transgression it drops you a peg in the pecking order. I guess it's what Donald Trump does, but he cranks it to a billion. Keep it at under, like, 10, and you get respect by not conforming too much on this ####.

[GirlySports]

The thing is they are not upset in front of you, they are upset behind your back and will eventually sabotage your work if there is team work.

It totally depends on the boss. Bad bosses avoid conflict and lets the toxicity continue. Even worse bosses avoid conflict and pick sides.

People quit bosses more than jobs, right?

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by KTrain

I do the same thing Silver.

I just keep forgetting whether it was because he liked the song from Nirvana or Moist.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

The thing is they are not upset in front of you, they are upset behind your back and will eventually sabotage your work if there is team work.

It totally depends on the boss. Bad bosses avoid conflict and lets the toxicity continue. Even worse bosses avoid conflict and pick sides.

People quit bosses more than jobs, right?

Well, we all politik. I think the uppity types don't tend to go very far. They plateau because everybody thinks they're a tit.

Take any career advice from Sliver with a grain of salt, though. As my wife likes to remind me, a lot has changes since I left the corporate world 18 years ago.

[you&me]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

The thing is they are not upset in front of you, they are upset behind your back and will eventually sabotage your work if there is team work.

It totally depends on the boss. Bad bosses avoid conflict and lets the toxicity continue. Even worse bosses avoid conflict and pick sides.

People quit bosses more than jobs, right?

It's exactly this kind of #### that makes me forever grateful that I've never had a boss (or worse, a boss with a boss), or had to deal with this type of pretty crap. The sheer amount of effort expended to navigate this crap, at the expense of actual productivity must be mind blowing.

[pseudoreality]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

It totally depends on the boss. Bad bosses avoid conflict and lets the toxicity continue. Even worse bosses avoid conflict and pick sides.

I recently have taken over as the new director of an existing division. I have discovered the previous director avoided conflict and dealing with situations. As a result, toxic behavoir developed, managers were being publicly undermined, and some staff think they are too important to the organization to have to follow rules. It is going to be a tough few months sorting this out and we may lose a couple people, but it will be worth it in the long run.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Fata people who don't like "guys". Snowflake, loser, looking-to-cause-trouble Karens every time. Seriously, go fata yourself if you are offended at a group who's being referred to as "guys". It's our version of y'all, except you don't sound like a hillbilly when you say it.

My favorite gender neutral pronoun is Comrade.

[Puppet Guy]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

My favorite gender neutral pronoun is Comrade.

"Scumbags" is my go-to.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Fata people who don't like "guys". Snowflake, loser, looking-to-cause-trouble Karens every time. Seriously, go fata yourself if you are offended at a group who's being referred to as "guys". It's our version of y'all, except you don't sound like a hillbilly when you say it.

I just call a group of people "party people". it works out.


Perhaps we should take the lead from Phil "Tandy" Miller here:

https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3652893977/

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Maybe he doesn't like you? I'll sometimes misspell somebody's name on purpose to show them I hate them.

edit: Beaten to the punch by KTrian

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

My favorite gender neutral pronoun is Comrade.

I’ve started saying “humans” and it weirds people out just enough to be enjoyable.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

I’ve started saying “humans” and it weirds people out just enough to be enjoyable.

Why not both?

"Greetings Comrade Humans!"