2022 Freedumb Convoy(s) Thread

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I'll be honest with you, I don't take this thread seriously or most of comments. I come in here when I am bored or have nothing better to do in order to try to ruffle some feathers from either side of the argument. No one in here is scoring any points and it is largely a cesspool of crazy.

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I'm trying to engage in serious discourse this morning. I took to google not to re-affirm my opinion on the events of BLM but to find an article to share as proof because if I came to the table and replied to your post without providing credible details of the rioting and looting it would be without merit

Forgive us for misconstruing your clearly stated motivations.

[Izzle]

IANAL, but it appears that the Canadian charter of Rights and freedoms still takes precedence over the emergency measures act

https://twitter.com/user/status/1495433975648735241

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

https://twitter.com/user/status/1495438967386292225

Heres an article on this. https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/19/2...-viral-sharing

[Muta]

Can we give a small portion of Canada to these people for their own country, so that they can all move there and live in their right-wing libertarian anti-vaxxing freedumb utopia and the rest of us can live our data-driven and and science-based lives with the rest of the real world? Would be even better if we never interact, too. Give them so much ‘freedom’ they have no idea what to do with it. Then watch.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Izzle

IANAL, but it appears that the Canadian charter of Rights and freedoms still takes precedence over the emergency measures act

https://twitter.com/user/status/1495433975648735241

fEARRRRR!!!!

[Mickey76]

You don’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to see the huge problem with the emeregency act. The onus is on the bank manager to freeze the account if you are suspected of supporting the truckers. Let’s suppose you are a uninterested farmer, truckdriver or profession linked to the protests and you go the bank to withdraw $6000 to buy a snowmobile. Your account could easily be frozen for something like that. Good luck reversing that. Nothing has happened that even remotely justifies this use of force.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Mickey76

You don’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to see the huge problem with the emeregency act. The onus is on the bank manager to freeze the account if you are suspected of supporting the truckers. Let’s suppose you are a uninterested farmer, truckdriver or profession linked to the protests and you go the bank to withdraw $6000 to buy a snowmobile. Your account could easily be frozen for something like that. Good luck reversing that. Nothing has happened that even remotely justifies this use of force.

In this imaginary situation, why would this person get their account frozen?

One of the biggest issues with the blockade is that they were heavily bankrolled (well, not like they were going to ever see it as they were being scammed. But they were told they’d be paid). So they were ripping up tickets upon receiving them. Basically the only deterrent they had to the trucks blocking downtown Ottawa was tickets, and they were useless.

I haven’t seen anyone propose a fix to the 22 day occupation that didn’t involve bringing in outside police forces for help (not possible without the act) and that didn’t involve cutting off their endless funding to continually break laws.

[Minnie]

This is allegedly Senator Mike MacDonald (NS). If it is truly him, I'm thinking it's a bit frosty at home right now.

[Izzle]

Originally Posted by Mickey76

You don’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to see the huge problem with the emeregency act. The onus is on the bank manager to freeze the account if you are suspected of supporting the truckers. Let’s suppose you are a uninterested farmer, truckdriver or profession linked to the protests and you go the bank to withdraw $6000 to buy a snowmobile. Your account could easily be frozen for something like that. Good luck reversing that. Nothing has happened that even remotely justifies this use of force.

That is simply not true tho, is it? Care to back it up?

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by Mickey76

You don’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to see the huge problem with the emeregency act. The onus is on the bank manager to freeze the account if you are suspected of supporting the truckers. Let’s suppose you are a uninterested farmer, truckdriver or profession linked to the protests and you go the bank to withdraw $6000 to buy a snowmobile. Your account could easily be frozen for something like that. Good luck reversing that. Nothing has happened that even remotely justifies this use of force.

And if you are an ordinary Canadian, and have to use the Charter of Rights and Freedoms to clear your name, how long would it take to fight it in the courts, and how much would it cost?.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Minnie

This is allegedly Senator Mike MacDonald (NS). If it is truly him, I'm thinking it's a bit frosty at home right now.

If that's not him, it's a very good lookalike.

[Izzle]

This guy thinks that restrictions are the reason he can't get an appointment for his heart condition. Not that a multitude of folks like him, who are anti-vax, that overwhelmed the health care system that are causing these delays.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1495458164657074177

Btw, why does he need Science to look at his heart condition when he doesn't want Science behind the vaccines?

[Minnie]

Now here's a zoom meeting I'd pay to be a fly on the wall for - WASH hearings for the occupiers that have been arrested.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1495458144138502149

[Mickey76]

Originally Posted by Izzle

That is simply not true tho, is it? Care to back it up?

“As of today, a bank or other financial service provider will be able to immediately freeze or suspend an account without a court order. In doing so they will be protected against civil liability for actions taken in good faith,” Freeland said.

So the banker needs to merely suspect.
I don’t think my example is a stretch at all where a farmer or a trucker went and withdrew 5-9000 they would be at risk for account freezing. Especially if it was an unusual transaction.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I'm trying to engage in serious discourse this morning. I took to google not to re-affirm my opinion on the events of BLM but to find an article to share as proof because if I came to the table and replied to your post without providing credible details of the rioting and looting it would be without merit

I'll bite - let's leave the most extreme 1-2% of each protest aside for a moment...how would you compare the conduct of the 'average' protester in each case? Especially in regards to:

- clarity of message/calls for action
- respect for bystanders and their general surroundings

Originally Posted by Minnie

This is allegedly Senator Mike MacDonald (NS). If it is truly him, I'm thinking it's a bit frosty at home right now.

One thing I hoped the pandemic would kill was close-talkers. It's such a weird old-dude move they do to try and make a point or something.

[Captain Otto]

Originally Posted by Mickey76

“As of today, a bank or other financial service provider will be able to immediately freeze or suspend an account without a court order. In doing so they will be protected against civil liability for actions taken in good faith,” Freeland said.

So the banker needs to merely suspect.
I don’t think my example is a stretch at all where a farmer or a trucker went and withdrew 5-9000 they would be at risk for account freezing. Especially if it was an unusual transaction.

Can you link the article?

I don't see the word "suspect" in that quote. It doesn't describe the process nor does it the describe the threshold. Maybe the entire article does?

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Mickey76

“As of today, a bank or other financial service provider will be able to immediately freeze or suspend an account without a court order. In doing so they will be protected against civil liability for actions taken in good faith,” Freeland said.

So the banker needs to merely suspect.
I don’t think my example is a stretch at all where a farmer or a trucker went and withdrew 5-9000 they would be at risk for account freezing. Especially if it was an unusual transaction.

No. Banks will do this at the direction of law enforcement.

You are no more vulnerable to a rogue bank employee today than you were at any other time.

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by Mickey76

“As of today, a bank or other financial service provider will be able to immediately freeze or suspend an account without a court order. In doing so they will be protected against civil liability for actions taken in good faith,” Freeland said.

So the banker needs to merely suspect.
I don’t think my example is a stretch at all where a farmer or a trucker went and withdrew 5-9000 they would be at risk for account freezing. Especially if it was an unusual transaction.

I think you missed the “in good faith” part of what she said

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Mickey76

“As of today, a bank or other financial service provider will be able to immediately freeze or suspend an account without a court order. In doing so they will be protected against civil liability for actions taken in good faith,” Freeland said.

So the banker needs to merely suspect.
I don’t think my example is a stretch at all where a farmer or a trucker went and withdrew 5-9000 they would be at risk for account freezing. Especially if it was an unusual transaction.

If you’re so afraid, you could always put it all in Bitcoin and close your bank account.

[Deegee]

Originally Posted by Mickey76

“As of today, a bank or other financial service provider will be able to immediately freeze or suspend an account without a court order. In doing so they will be protected against civil liability for actions taken in good faith,” Freeland said.

So the banker needs to merely suspect.
I don’t think my example is a stretch at all where a farmer or a trucker went and withdrew 5-9000 they would be at risk for account freezing. Especially if it was an unusual transaction.

I work for the largest Credit Union in Alberta. I assure you no accounts are being frozen because of conspiracy theorists making large cash withdrawals right now.