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Old 01-07-2021, 01:52 PM   #1061
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I served in the Canadian Forces from 1998-2002. I was in the Reserves while I was a university student. For me, it was a part-time job (one night a week, one weekend a month, and two months during the summer) to help pay for my education and maybe earn a bit of beer money. I was never deployed to an overseas combat zone. My time in the military wasn't entirely without risk of injury or death, but it was no more dangerous than any other job that involves working around heavy machinery.

I'm proud of the time I spend in the Forces and the excellent training I received as a young man that played a significant part in shaping the person I am today. I still include it on my resume nearly two decades later. But there are some people who, upon learning of this part-time job I had ~20 years ago, get completely weird about it, making a big showy display of shaking my hand and thanking me for my service. I find it super creepy and off-putting.


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Old 01-07-2021, 01:53 PM   #1062
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I don't know how I feel.

A human, no matter what they have done, deserves a minimum level of respect for their life. I respect their right to be alive for example as I don't believe in the death penalty. I respect them not to be tutored.

If you severed this country, that minimum level goes up a little to me.

If you murder someone you are at a minimum plus a tiny fraction of respect given your past service.

Also, to imply I have automatically given her a great deal of respect is incorrect, if you are implying that, given I also called her a terrorist.
ah-hah! Maybe they do need to be tutored.
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You wouldnt happen to have spent your time hosing stains off a monument would you?
Ha! I never hosed down a monument, but a few of my buddies and I were punished for screwing up somehow by having to clean by hand a bunch of super grimy brass door knobs on the base.
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Old 01-07-2021, 01:59 PM   #1064
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[QUOTE=nfotiu;7683150]Meanwhile, Trump is handing out Medals of Freedom to golfers... because why not.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...babe-zaharias/


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...or/6585275002/

On Thursday, Hall of Fame golfers Annika Sorenstam and Gary Player stood with Trump at the White House to accept the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Sorenstam and Player, widely regarded as paragons of sportsmanship and honor in their game, did not cancel on Trump. They did not note the horror that had taken place on his watch and decide that Thursday wasn’t an appropriate time to celebrate with him at the White House. They did not care about the gravity of the situation, about the calls from political leaders to remove Trump by impeachment or the 25th Amendment.

No. They willingly chose to accept an award from Trump and be seen with him a day after his words and actions launched one of the most shameful incidents in U.S. history.


They had nothing to do with the insurrection of the Trump mob on Wednesday, of course, but they happily became Trump’s Thursday accessories. They celebrated with him as our nation mourns what he has wrought.

note: Sorenstam is on record as a Trump supporter.
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Old 01-07-2021, 01:59 PM   #1065
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I by no means defend this woman nor MAGAs in general, but it is weird definition of terrorism. Act of terrorism is an act which main and usually only objective is to, well, terrorize public. It usually involves mass shooting or bombing, sometimes in spectacular fashion (jet crashing into a tower) and it doesn't have to be politically motivated. In fact, motives are irrelevant since terrorism is essentially a war tactic, that can be used to achieve different goals. What that woman was doing was a coup, treason, crime, whatever. But her goal was to change the election outcome, not to terrorize anyone. And again, I am not trying to defend her at all.
You don't think forcefully entering the capitol building, and causing congress to flee, terrified, into tunnels and bunkers isn't "terrorizing"? That's interesting way of looking at it. Go ask a congress person if they were terrified yesterday.
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It's embarrassing reading this thread the mental gymnastics some are trying to defend the actions of domestic terrorism on democracy.

It's ####ing embarrassing it's coming from Canadians I gotta live with. Tou don't deserve the right to vote if you can even feel like you can defend those actions from a single person in that mob.

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https://twitter.com/user/status/1347232193341513736

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I don't follow MSNBC but all of a sudden I like Joe Scarborough. What a great rant. Made even better by the audible gasp from his co-anchor after he drops the f-bomb.
FYI that co-anchor is also his wife (I think the met doing that show)
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Starting to lean that way first kenney now this ..... do better calgary!!!! Jk... kind of
Just to be clear, we're talking about the Ontario born, Saskatoon, Victoria and San Francisco educated, Ottawa and Edmonton employed Kenney? Outside of some moronic voters, Calgary takes no blame for him listing his mother's basement as his residence
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It's embarrassing reading this thread the mental gymnastics some are trying to defend the actions of domestic terrorism on democracy.

It's ####ing embarrassing it's coming from Canadians I gotta live with. Tou don't deserve the right to vote if you can even feel like you can defend those actions from a single person in that mob.
I haven't seen anyone really defend the actions of the rioters? What did I miss?
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Just to be clear, we're talking about the Ontario born, Saskatoon, Victoria and San Francisco educated, Ottawa and Edmonton employed Kenney? Outside of some moronic voters, Calgary takes no blame for him listing his mother's basement as his residence
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Just to be clear, we're talking about the Ontario born, Saskatoon, Victoria and San Francisco educated, Ottawa and Edmonton employed Kenney? Outside of some moronic voters, Calgary takes no blame for him listing his mother's basement as his residence
no way. he's always been in Calgary ridings, so he's Calgary employed.
If you didn't elect him he wouldn't be in my city.
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You don't think forcefully entering the capitol building, and causing congress to flee, terrified, into tunnels and bunkers isn't "terrorizing"? That's interesting way of looking at it. Go ask a congress person if they were terrified yesterday.
They were terrorized in the same way, a child is terrorized by a burglar. It doesn't make burglar a terrorist. From what I could gather, the plan was to topple the government. That's not terrorism. It might be worse, actually, but it's not about terrorizing anyone. It was about seizing power.
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They were terrorized in the same way, a child is terrorized by a burglar. It doesn't make burglar a terrorist. From what I could gather, the plan was to topple the government. That's not terrorism. It might be worse, actually, but it's not about terrorizing anyone. It was about seizing power.
That's about the most ridiculous thing I've read all week, and this week has been a doozy. So congrats. Well done.

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Since 1994, the United Nations General Assembly has condemned terrorist acts using the following political description of terrorism:
Criminal acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in the general public, a group of persons or particular persons for political purposes are in any circumstance unjustifiable, whatever the considerations of a political, philosophical, ideological, racial, ethnic, religious or any other nature that may be invoked to justify them.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_terrorism

Please, pretzel your way through that definition, and claim they aren't terrorists.

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They were terrorized in the same way, a child is terrorized by a burglar. It doesn't make burglar a terrorist. From what I could gather, the plan was to topple the government. That's not terrorism. It might be worse, actually, but it's not about terrorizing anyone. It was about seizing power.
Are you seriously suggesting those confederate flags and MAGA Civil War T-shirts and Camp Auschwitz hoodies are not meant to scare the #### out of certain groups of people?
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Old 01-07-2021, 02:19 PM   #1076
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Geez. Ted Cruz and this guy? That stings.

Bright side: Flames not likely to be on Trump's nuke list for the next 2 weeks.

Still pretty bad though. That's one of the most iconic images of the day and will be shown for ages.
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They were terrorized in the same way, a child is terrorized by a burglar. It doesn't make burglar a terrorist. From what I could gather, the plan was to topple the government. That's not terrorism. It might be worse, actually, but it's not about terrorizing anyone. It was about seizing power.
ter·ror·ism
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"the fight against terrorism"

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Old 01-07-2021, 02:19 PM   #1078
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That's about the most ridiculous thing I've read all week, and this week has been a doozy. So congrats. Well done.
"It was a failed coup/revolution, not terrorism"


Oh, well that's better. For a minute there I was worried what these people were doing was gonna be something terrible but as long as it's only...no wait, that's much worse.
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ter·ror·ism
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"the fight against terrorism"

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What else would you call it?
An Act of Terror. But that’s as much as I’ll back off.
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