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Locke · 05-20-2018, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mathgod

You're right. Back then I was fine watching a sport that revolves so heavily around one player in one position. But now I'm starting to see it differently. It just seems lame. FTR no, I don't care if it the Jets losing or Vegas winning or whatever, it just seems lame that one team's talent and scoring prowess can be completely nullified by one player on the other team. Hockey is supposed to be a team sport, but the more I watch the more it becomes apparent to me that goaltending is almost the sole key to success.

Perhaps a simple solution to this would be to increase the size of the nets, but I'm well aware that it's not likely to happen...

Come on. Really?

The opposite can also be true, bad goaltending can sink a team as well, but the goalie is part of the team.

White Out 403 · 05-20-2018, 04:39 PM

I'm not choked that Vegas won because Fleury was standing on his head. He's part of the team and Vegas was full marks. I do think they had a much bigger advantage because of the path they got to the west final was a lot easier and they had a lot more rest. But that's not changing anytime soon so the Jets will need to adjust in the future.

Roof-Daddy · 05-20-2018, 04:40 PM

An expansion team going to the finals. Thats not bush league at all lol. Maybe they should loosen up the draft rules even more next time. Every team can protect 5 forwards, 2 dmen and no goalies. Clown show. Maybe they can move the Flames to Houston and Calgary can get an expansion team so we can have a 110 point Stanley cup contender finally lol.

Jeff Lebowski · 05-20-2018, 04:47 PM

I recall people saying how McPhee blew the expansion draft. There was more going into their team and season than just expansion rules - Getting Fleury is obviously huge starting point.

All year VGK was the better team most nights. No different in playoffs. They were the better team, all the chatter is just excuses.

EVERLAST · 05-20-2018, 04:48 PM

Well knights I hope MAF is okay. Maybe Hrudey is grasping at straws saying it looked as if he was favoring his hip but I hope MAF is good to go into his third straight SCF.
I want to see him hoist another cup with Derek and Gallant.

SportsJunky · 05-20-2018, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mathgod

it just seems lame that one team's talent and scoring prowess can be completely nullified by one player on the other team. Hockey is supposed to be a team sport

Did you happen to catch LeBron destroy the Raptors? It happens.

KootenayFlamesFan · 05-20-2018, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

I recall people saying how McPhee blew the expansion draft.

I was one of those people. Apparently there’s a reason GMGM got the job over me!

SuperMatt18 · 05-20-2018, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

An expansion team going to the finals. Thats not bush league at all lol. Maybe they should loosen up the draft rules even more next time. Every team can protect 5 forwards, 2 dmen and no goalies. Clown show. Maybe they can move the Flames to Houston and Calgary can get an expansion team so we can have a 110 point Stanley cup contender finally lol.

This is on the GMs and not the draft rules IMO.

They gave Vegas the chance to get teams 6th or 7th best forwards, or 4th or 5th best dman.

But then teams made mistakes or didnt evaluate the talent on their team properly.

Why did Florida give up Smith and Marchessault...they could have protected both of them. Better protect Alex Petrovic or Mark Pysyk instead.

And really it’s that one deal that completely changed the path of the Knights. Instead of getting a #5 dman from Florida they received not one but two top line forwards that were 25 goal guys previously.

Honestly if you want to blame anyone blame Dale Tallon.

KootenayFlamesFan · 05-20-2018, 04:55 PM

Minnesota helped out Vegas as well.

Machiavelli · 05-20-2018, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Minnesota helped out Vegas as well.

As did the Bruins

CSharp · 05-20-2018, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by White Out 403

I'm not choked that Vegas won because Fleury was standing on his head. He's part of the team and Vegas was full marks. I do think they had a much bigger advantage because of the path they got to the west final was a lot easier and they had a lot more rest. But that's not changing anytime soon so the Jets will need to adjust in the future.

I don't think the Vegas Knight's path to the Finals was any easy than the Jets. I think the Jets likely had the easier route with the Wilds and then the Preds. Vegas would've finished the Preds likely in the same amount of games, IMO. The Eastern teams only had two teams that were worthy - Pens and Bruins. Vegas Knights will finish off either the Lightenings and Caps easily. Fluery has been great in the playoffs, but the team in front of him also played very well. The team as a whole has been doing this all season.

Roof-Daddy · 05-20-2018, 05:00 PM

For the 100th time it doesnt matter what people thought before, during or immediately after the expansion draft. Obviously we were all wrong and the rules were way too loose lol. Back in the day expansion rules were too strict and they built awful teams so they loosened up the rules. This team got 109 points and is in the cup finals. They ####ed up and went too far haha. Unless the goal was to give an expansion team a stanley cup i mean.

djsFlames · 05-20-2018, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by White Out 403

I'm not choked that Vegas won because Fleury was standing on his head. He's part of the team and Vegas was full marks. I do think they had a much bigger advantage because of the path they got to the west final was a lot easier and they had a lot more rest. But that's not changing anytime soon so the Jets will need to adjust in the future.

So many backhanded compliments dude, what's your deal?

You say full marks then you go on to slight their accomplishment with excuses that make it sound like not full marks.

Time to call it a day and give the posting a break, maybe go put a steak on the barbecue and reminisce over the fun season, cause nothing you're posting rn is coming across as genuine, just kinda butthurt. I get it sucks that you're out but I get embarrassed for your posts almost every time they pop up.

Azure · 05-20-2018, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

For the 100th time it doesnt matter what people thought before, during or immediately after the expansion draft. Obviously we were all wrong and the rules were way too loose lol. Back in the day expansion rules were too strict and they built awful teams so they loosened up the rules. This team got 109 points and is in the cup finals. They ####ed up and went too far haha. Unless the goal was to give an expansion team a stanley cup i mean.

Yawn.

At the end of the regardless of HOW good your team is, you still have to compete every night in order to win.

Don't blame the expansion draft rules for a team that has clearly bought into a superior coaching plan and has executed on it all year long.

EldrickOnIce · 05-20-2018, 05:07 PM

Ha wow.
Suck it Jets.
Sorry Textcritic, you were right all along.

keratosis · 05-20-2018, 05:11 PM

Not burning the town down yet. Must be an Edmonton thing.

combustiblefuel · 05-20-2018, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

For the 100th time it doesnt matter what people thought before, during or immediately after the expansion draft. Obviously we were all wrong and the rules were way too loose lol. Back in the day expansion rules were too strict and they built awful teams so they loosened up the rules. This team got 109 points and is in the cup finals. They ####ed up and went too far haha. Unless the goal was to give an expansion team a stanley cup i mean.

The kicker will be that Vegas is exempt from when Seattle joins the league.

White Out 403 · 05-20-2018, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by djsFlames

So many backhanded compliments dude, what's your deal?

You say full marks then you go on to slight their accomplishment with excuses that make it sound like not full marks.

Time to call it a day and give the posting a break, maybe go put a steak on the barbecue and reminisce over the fun season, cause nothing you're posting rn is coming across as genuine, just kinda butthurt. I get it sucks that you're out but I get embarrassed for your posts almost every time they pop up.

im giving my opinion of the ####ing series, if you dont like it place me on ignore or move along.

JohnnyB · 05-20-2018, 05:19 PM

I only managed to catch the last 6 minutes of that game, but it was pretty striking how defeated the Jets looked in what was still a one goal game. They just had nothing at the end there. No big push. No rage. Just went quietly into the off-season.

SebC · 05-20-2018, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

For the 100th time it doesnt matter what people thought before, during or immediately after the expansion draft. Obviously we were all wrong and the rules were way too loose lol. Back in the day expansion rules were too strict and they built awful teams so they loosened up the rules. This team got 109 points and is in the cup finals. They ####ed up and went too far haha. Unless the goal was to give an expansion team a stanley cup i mean.

I would expect that you could do 100 expansions with these rules and 99 of the teams would not do as well as Vegas.