Mark "Fricken" Jankowski (aka The Big Jankowski)

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

No, because the scouting staff that scouted him is still there. You don't really believe one prospect selcetion led to their firing? do you? Their firing is a while different story.

Jankowski was Weisbrod. He personally scouted him, he told Feaster not to trade the pick because he found Jankowski.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

I think the simple argument is why didn't we draft a more NHL ready prospect?

Those who believe we should've must think we're close to contending?

Or maybe the question should have been, should the Flames have traded the 1st round pick for some other asset?

If I remember correctly, Feaster had some options that involved trading the pick during the season, and Weisbrod was on board, UNTIL he discovered Jankowski, at which point he told Feaster to keep the first rounder.

When you look at the cost for Kyle Turris that year (a 1st rounder and a David Runblad), maybe Feaster was in on that and decided to pass after Weisbrod said to keep the pick.

[sun]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I am at a loss for words as to how to properly respond here.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...NHL-draft.html

At least 30 NHL scouts employed by all 30 teams disagree with you.

Now, you really believe that Jankowski is absolute last in EVERY ASPECT OF HIS GAME as compared to his peers in the 1st round? Let me copy and paste your exact words again:

not a single aspect of his game is at the level of what an NHL projected player should be at or what his peers from the first round are at.

Am I interpreting this correctly? You think he is absolutely LAST in EVERY ASPECT of his game from all the players chosen in the first round that year? Can you clarify this if I am misunderstanding your post?

There are players routinely drafted from the lower rounds that have certain aspects higher than almost any first round pick - but they usually have bigger, more glaring or more numerous holes which put them in the later rounds (Gaudreau was said to have had top 3 skills, but his size issues were a huge hole, Kabanov was thought to have had top 5 pick skills, but his perceived attitude issues pushed him down, etc., Heck, Keegan Kanzig probably ranked in the top 5 at least in terms of 'physicality').

However, you insist that Jankowski is absolutely the worst in every aspect of his game chosen from the first round? Difficult to take your posts seriously when you exaggerate like this.

[bubbsy]

PC Men's Hockey ‏@FriarsHockey 4m Former Friar & current @NHLFlames President of Hockey Ops Brian Burke '77 addressed the team today after practice pic.twitter.com/kkvYxLJfXh

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

PC Men's Hockey ‏@FriarsHockey 4m Former Friar & current @NHLFlames President of Hockey Ops Brian Burke '77 addressed the team today after practice pic.twitter.com/kkvYxLJfXh

"you are all bums with no i-n-t-e-n-s-i-t-y"

[getbak]

The guys in the front row out of the shot better be Gillies, Gilmour, and Jankowski.

[Muta]

"truc all of you"

[ah123]

Is Burke doing the US college speaking tour, or is just the colleges that have two or more Flames prospects?

[FBI]

Would love Burke to say something positive about Janko.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I didn't hear anything about Burke calling Leaman to reassure Jankowski and Gilmour that they are well thought of like he did with BC. Whether or not Burke feels that Jankowski and Gilmour are good prospects or not (he has already made a positive mention about Gillies), he should at least pull them aside and say a few positives.

Considering one of the reasons Burke stated that he decided to let go of both Feaster and Weisbrod was due to the draft, though mentioning that the 2013 draft was awesome, puts the bulls-eye right on Jankowski. I really hope he reassures the kid.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by nik-

Jankowski was Weisbrod. He personally scouted him, he told Feaster not to trade the pick because he found Jankowski.

I'm sure throughout the season Weidbrod personally scouted a lot of players. IIRC he was on his way to scout Sieloff but weather sidetracked him. Jankowski was ranked by various scouting resources as a mid-late 2nd rounder and we've heard of a couple teams (Montreal and New jersey?) liking Jankowski around where we took him. I think the whole Weisbrod calling up Feaster all excited etc is just more of Jay Feasters amazingly sell job ability.

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I didn't hear anything about Burke calling Leaman to reassure Jankowski and Gilmour that they are well thought of like he did with BC. Whether or not Burke feels that Jankowski and Gilmour are good prospects or not (he has already made a positive mention about Gillies), he should at least pull them aside and say a few positives.

Considering one of the reasons Burke stated that he decided to let go of both Feaster and Weisbrod was due to the draft, though mentioning that the 2013 draft was awesome, puts the bulls-eye right on Jankowski. I really hope he reassures the kid.

I think Burke mentioned the Boston kids specifically because he was trying to deflect away from criticism about holy liking the big players. At 6'5 and 6'3 respectively he didn't need to talk about Gillies and Jankowski. Those comments were made in a very specific context.

[dammage79]

Is Janko eligible for next years WJC? he just turned 19 this past september so I would assume he is?

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Is Janko eligible for next years WJC? he just turned 19 this past september so I would assume he is?

The World Juniors is an under 20 tournament, so nope.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

I think Burke mentioned the Boston kids specifically because he was trying to deflect away from criticism about holy liking the big players. At 6'5 and 6'3 respectively he didn't need to talk about Gillies and Jankowski. Those comments were made in a very specific context.

That is 100% true. Burke reassured Gaudreau about the size thing after he stated that the Flames need to get bigger and more truculent.

However, with respect to Jankowski, it was a different statement. "Flames under Feaster have drafted poorly" or whatever it was (paraphrasing here), and Jankowski was the most polarizing pick for the Flames under Feaster (well, the whole "Poirier over Shinkaruk as well, but Burke has already come out and said that the Flames did very well that draft, and he has since signed Poirier).

I just think some reassurance towards Jankowski might be a good idea given those 'bad drafting' comments.

[Tinordi]

I would hope that getting an assurance from Burke that he isn't a bad prospect isn't the the breaking point for him actually being a bad prospect.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

That is 100% true. Burke reassured Gaudreau about the size thing after he stated that the Flames need to get bigger and more truculent.

However, with respect to Jankowski, it was a different statement. "Flames under Feaster have drafted poorly" or whatever it was (paraphrasing here), and Jankowski was the most polarizing pick for the Flames under Feaster (well, the whole "Poirier over Shinkaruk as well, but Burke has already come out and said that the Flames did very well that draft, and he has since signed Poirier).

I just think some reassurance towards Jankowski might be a good idea given those 'bad drafting' comments.

Which likely took place today. The reassurance from Burke towards Janko and Gillies. I would say Gilmour as well but I feel as a seventh round pick there isnt't much to reassure him about. Just remind him if he wants to make it, he needs to work.

[FBI]

Yeah a little bit of reassurance probably goes a long way.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

I would hope that getting an assurance from Burke that he isn't a bad prospect isn't the the breaking point for him actually being a bad prospect.

Breaking point? No. Still, you would think these kids would feel better knowing their respective NHL teams holding their rights look positively on them.

[dammage79]

Especially since the two guys that bought in to you are now no longer with said organization.

[sureLoss]

Slightly OT, but I wonder if Burke would ever pressure a player in the NCAA to leave school if he thought it was in the best interest of his NHL club.

I know Feaster said he won't pressure a kid to leave school but he also said that other NHL teams do. Wonder if Burke agrees.