Not sure I am following your last sentence. Are you saying legacy admissions was a response to affirmative action?
I was trying to say that private schools like Harvard used race-based affirmative action mainly as a way to show its commitment to "diversity" while allowing it to hide how its legacy admissions are much less diverse in terms of race and socio-economics.
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Private institutions on the other hand can operate as they like, because they are private institutions and free from government interference. Legacy acceptance is also associated with fund raising and maintenance of the school's endowment, which is why private schools still rely on the practice and will continue to reply on the practice. Giving preference to a legacy is how they keep the money flowing.
Yes, the private schools legally have a lot of leeway there and it's not surprising that the SC case focused on race. It'll probably be up to the court of public opinion to force change to Harvard, etc on their legacy policies (or not) and not a legal challenge.
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I was trying to say that private schools like Harvard used race-based affirmative action mainly as a way to show its commitment to "diversity" while allowing it to hide how its legacy admissions are much less diverse in terms of race and socio-economics.
How exactly were these schools "hiding" legacy admissions?
Am I on crazy pills? Were there not 14 dozen 80s movies where the secondary antagonist was usually some sweater be-wrapped Legacy jock getting cool whip in his tiny 80s shorts from the hard-partying frat?
I'm just waiting for the link between Hunter Biden and the faking of the moon landings. Hunter Biden born February 4th, 1970. The very next Apollo mission? Apollo 13, April 1970. Coincidence? I think not!
Apparently the Hunter Biden whistleblower is a Chinese Spy?
Legacy admissions being linked to race discrimination seems to neatly sidestep the admitting of generationally rich and powerful families in order to service nepotism and political and adedemic donation.
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Legacy acceptance is also associated with fund raising and maintenance of the school's endowment, which is why private schools still rely on the practice and will continue to reply on the practice. Giving preference to a legacy is how they keep the money flowing.
I’m deeply concerned about the continued viability of these institutions without legacy funders .
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I’m deeply concerned about the continued viability of these institutions without legacy funders .
Pretty shocking when you see those numbers. I heard a fascinating interview with Scott Galloway, an NYU prof, who today said places like Harvard could easily double attendance, not dilute applicant quality or the quality of education. He said the entire system is built to create false scarcity.
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A lot of that money comes from alumni donations - it’s not as though it’s a surplus from tuition. Which is why administrators defend legacy admissions. It’s about keeping the money rolling in, not keeping the schools white.
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I’m deeply concerned about the continued viability of these institutions without legacy funders .
You are aware how those endowments are created and how the money flows into them to keep them healthy? Alumni “give” to the institution do build the endowment. Many do that for legacy purposes and not out of the goodness of their hearts.
You are aware how those endowments are created and how the money flows into them to keep them healthy? Alumni “give” to the institution do build the endowment. Many do that for legacy purposes and not out of the goodness of their hearts.
The Ivys endowments are currently greater than they can spend.
For example Harvard earns roughly 90k per student using an inflation adjusted 4% annual return through their endowment. They no longer need to increase the funds, they are self sustaining.
An American friend is on a tour now of all the Ivy League schools with his daughter. All of them! My friend must be richer than I thought. That’ll be a really expensive degree. Whatever it is.
The Ivys endowments are currently greater than they can spend.
For example Harvard earns roughly 90k per student using an inflation adjusted 4% annual return through their endowment. They no longer need to increase the funds, they are self sustaining.
Those endowments and fund development is so unimportant that Harvard has a Vice President and four Associate Vice Presidents under him for handling the 435 people in Alumni Affairs and Development. Harvard is so intent on giving away all that endowment money that 70% of awards granted to students (Harvard doesn’t do scholarship) is from alumni gifts, usually given to specific departments from graduates.
