11-13-2023, 10:05 PM
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#10621
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by ResAlien
. Lord forbid there’s any kind of speculation in the trade rumours and speculation thread. Sheesh
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Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room
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11-14-2023, 01:03 AM
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#10623
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Dammit, I missed all the fun. Maybe I should just start sending off PMs to random users to see what will happen. Is springs1 still hanging around?
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11-14-2023, 03:04 AM
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#10624
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Originally Posted by Sec214
 This thread is exactly like the flames locker room.
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Seems like Rhett was right about how fractured the locker room is
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11-14-2023, 04:24 AM
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#10625
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
If I were the Colorado Avalanche, I would simply trade for Elias Lindholm.
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Lindholm for Makar straight across, has to happen now to make sense.
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11-14-2023, 05:58 AM
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#10626
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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With Fantilli speaking out, and Roslavic injured, do you think there's a chance to Columbus makes a move to improve?
I still see CBJ as the perfect landing spot for Lindholm as a veteran leader and to help Johnny and Laine out.
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11-14-2023, 06:03 AM
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#10627
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Poe969
With Fantilli speaking out, and Roslavic injured, do you think there's a chance to Columbus makes a move to improve?
I still see CBJ as the perfect landing spot for Lindholm as a veteran leader and to help Johnny and Laine out.
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Lindholm isn’t helping himself with his indifferent play.
Is Columbus willing to gamble on signing lindholm to the term being thrown out there? Current regime is on thin ice so not sure if ownership is on board.
I like the possibility but Columbus needs to be willing to take that risk in lindholm and be willing to give up what we need in order for this to go through.
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11-14-2023, 06:03 AM
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#10628
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Lindy to Columbus makes too much sense. Which is why I think it won’t happen
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11-14-2023, 06:36 AM
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#10629
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
Lindy to Columbus makes too much sense. Which is why I think it won’t happen
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It really only makes sense if Lindholm will sign there.
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11-14-2023, 06:59 AM
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#10630
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Bonded
It really only makes sense if Lindholm will sign there.
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You know what we’re probably not talking about enough?
How lucky we are Lindholm didn’t take any of the contract offers from the Flames.
Dude is on pace for 47 points.
82 points.
64 points.
47 points?
Yeah, better pay that guy $8-$9M per year.
This “patient” approach with Lindholm has undoubtedly devalued the player. How could it not have? A pattern of regression is actively being established. What do you get for a .5’ish centre?
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11-14-2023, 07:05 AM
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#10631
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
You know what we’re probably not talking about enough?
How lucky we are Lindholm didn’t take any of the contract offers from the Flames.
Dude is on pace for 47 points.
82 points.
64 points.
47 points?
Yeah, better pay that guy $8-$9M per year.
This “patient” approach with Lindholm has undoubtedly devalued the player. How could it not have? A pattern of regression is actively being established. What do you get for a .5’ish centre?
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That is what Horvat is basically and he got a haul. I am not too worried about it. If it was just Lindholm then I would be but the entire forward group is doing terrible and pretty easy to defend.
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11-14-2023, 07:21 AM
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#10632
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Bonded
That is what Horvat is basically and he got a haul. I am not too worried about it. If it was just Lindholm then I would be but the entire forward group is doing terrible and pretty easy to defend.
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Yeah, Horvat’s return is probably a good indicator. So somewhere around a lottery protected 1st + former 2nd + cap dump?
That seems fine by me.
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11-14-2023, 07:23 AM
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#10633
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Bonded
That is what Horvat is basically and he got a haul. I am not too worried about it. If it was just Lindholm then I would be but the entire forward group is doing terrible and pretty easy to defend.
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Except when Horvat got traded he was having his best year and over a PPG
Recent performance matter a lot. Performing at 0.5 PPG if it continues will absolutely have an impact on his trade value (after a down year last year as well)
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11-14-2023, 07:28 AM
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#10634
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
That is what Horvat is basically and he got a haul. I am not too worried about it. If it was just Lindholm then I would be but the entire forward group is doing terrible and pretty easy to defend.
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Horvat was on a 90 pt pace and back to back 30 goal when he was traded. Kinda like Kadri. Career contract year.
I doubt people are lining up to pay Lindholm asking price of 9M if that is true. Huge obstacle to do sign and trade. He may end up as a pure rental which has much lower return
Sure you can make a case and argue just like Kadri but not everyone is as stupid as Treliving and he is capped out
Btw, they didn’t get much for Horvat so I think a 1st and some dispensable player is doable for Lindholm
Last edited by Flamesfan05; 11-14-2023 at 07:35 AM.
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11-14-2023, 07:35 AM
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#10635
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Horvat was on a 90 pt pace and back to back 30 goal when he was traded. Kinda like Kadri. Career contract year.
I doubt people are lining up to pay Lindholm asking price of 9M if that is true. Huge obstacle to do sign and trade. He may end up as a pure rental which has much lower return
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I still think a GM pays Lindholm 8-8.5 if he hits free agency and the number he is willing to sign for with the Flames is different than what he is willing to sign for with another team.
He will get a 1st + b prospect and some salary. Anyone who was thinking Johnson was coming back was dreaming to begin with. If he is willing to sign in Columbus then they might get Sillinger + 1st
Last edited by Bonded; 11-14-2023 at 07:38 AM.
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11-14-2023, 07:38 AM
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#10636
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
I still think a GM pays Lindholm 8-8.5 if he hits free agency and the number he is willing to sign for with the Flames is different than what he is willing to sign for with another team.
He will get a 1st + b prospect and some salary.
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Agreed, Lindholm definitely has value. My guess the other GMs will think his lack of production (so far) is a Flames thing,
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11-14-2023, 07:40 AM
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#10637
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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GMs won't look at this year and conclude that Lindholm is useless. They might take a look at his production since Gaudreau & Tkachuk left his wing and determine his value based more off of that however. Still, I'd think most GMs would be excited to get a guy who can potentially gel with their star players for less than he would have commanded a few years ago and with the potential to sign him for less than he would have made as well.
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11-14-2023, 07:42 AM
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#10638
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
I still think a GM pays Lindholm 8-8.5 if he hits free agency and the number he is willing to sign for with the Flames is different than what he is willing to sign for with another team.
He will get a 1st + b prospect and some salary. Anyone who was thinking Johnson was coming back was dreaming to begin with. If he is willing to sign in Columbus then they might get Sillinger + 1st
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Yeah someone may pay in FA, there is always an idiot
But nobody will pay assets to trade for him
But your price is about right. That’s basically price for a rental. Low first and some middling players/ prospects
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11-14-2023, 07:44 AM
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#10639
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Scoring Winger
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It’s telling, Columbus loses a forward for 4-6 weeks in Roslovic and they call up a dman. Kent Johnston is clearly in the dog house right now. Really hope they are knocking on that door.
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11-14-2023, 07:53 AM
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#10640
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jason14h
Except when Horvat got traded he was having his best year and over a PPG
Recent performance matter a lot. Performing at 0.5 PPG if it continues will absolutely have an impact on his trade value (after a down year last year as well)
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Yeah, but the Islanders didn't pay the price for a #1 PPG center in trade or contract value.
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