03-15-2011, 02:10 PM
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RE: Nani. He is a big diver, and does quite a bit of acting, but how can anyone seriously call him out for what happened on the weekend? If that gash (see Valo's post) is acting and being a fairy, then what does it take to not be considered one? If he deserved a yellow card for what he did, then every player being fouled for the rest of the season should get a yellow. Really shows the knowledge of some people.
Don't forget, last year Fabregas scored with a broken leg and played for a short time after before subbed off. It happens all the time in every sport - athletes continuing through injury for a short period of time through adrenaline. In this case, Nani rushing over immediately after the foul.
How anyone can claim Nani was faking injury is beyond me.
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03-15-2011, 02:22 PM
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#1043
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Franchise Player
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Capello is an idiot, just looking forward to anyone taking over after next summer
I can somewhat see taking it away from Rio because he is so injury prone, but giving it to Terry is lunacy
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03-16-2011, 09:40 AM
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#1044
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About time...
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Five-Game Ban For Ferguson
United Boss Punished By FA For Criticism Of Atkinson
16 March 2011
Sky Sports
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has been handed a five-match touchline ban and £30,000 fine by the Football Association following his criticism of referee Martin Atkinson.
Ferguson had been charged with improper conduct by the FA after questioning Atkinsonfollowing United's 2-1 defeat at Chelsea at the start of the month.
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03-16-2011, 10:14 AM
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#1045
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Originally Posted by Addick
About time...
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Yeah no kidding since it has never been done before at all...
20 October 2003 – Two match touchline ban and fined £10,000 after using abusive and/or insulting words towards Fourth Official Jeff Winter.
14 December 2007 – Two match touchline ban and fined £5,000 after using abusive and/or insulting words towards Mark Clattenburg.
18 November 2008 – Two match touchline ban and fined £10,000 after confronting Mike Dean after a game
12 November 2009 – Four match touchline ban (two suspended) and fined £20,000 for comments made about the fitness of Alan Wiley.
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03-16-2011, 10:59 AM
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#1046
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by united
RE: Nani. He is a big diver, and does quite a bit of acting, but how can anyone seriously call him out for what happened on the weekend? If that gash (see Valo's post) is acting and being a fairy, then what does it take to not be considered one? If he deserved a yellow card for what he did, then every player being fouled for the rest of the season should get a yellow. Really shows the knowledge of some people.
Don't forget, last year Fabregas scored with a broken leg and played for a short time after before subbed off. It happens all the time in every sport - athletes continuing through injury for a short period of time through adrenaline. In this case, Nani rushing over immediately after the foul.
How anyone can claim Nani was faking injury is beyond me.
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What do you want man? Was the foul a yellow? Absolutely, was the foul potentially a red? Potentially.
But he jumped up instantly and then rolled around for a bit, and then had to be taken off on a stretcher. For a cut?
And then he was listed as injured for a month and then he played yesterday.
So whats the truth then? They say one thing and then go ahead and do something else entirely. No wonder theres doubt.
You're right about one thing though, it really does expose some people's knowledge of the game.
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Last edited by Locke; 03-16-2011 at 11:06 AM.
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03-16-2011, 11:15 AM
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#1047
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was a bit more than a cut, I think I could see bone
and it was a clear 100% without a doubt red
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03-16-2011, 11:17 AM
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#1048
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Will be interesting of Fergie goes to the lengths that the special one did during his touchline ban
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LONDON, April 24 (Reuters) - Two newspapers have claimed Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho once allegedly hid in a laundry basket used for transporting the club's kit to get round a UEFA ban covering a big game.
The Daily Mail said it happened two years ago when Mourinho had been barred from contact with his players during both legs of a quarter-final Champions League tie against Bayern Munich.
He was being punished after indiscretions in the previous round with Barcelona.
On the night of the home leg, observers were convinced that Chelsea fitness coach Rui Faria was using an earpiece hidden under a woolly hat to communicate with the manager, the Mail said.
Both the Mail and The Times said Mourinho arrived early at the ground, watched the game on a TV in a dressing room and delivered the pre-match and halftime talks.
Both papers alleged that about 10 minutes before the end of the game, which Chelsea won 4-2, the manager clambered into one of the laundry skips.
He was then wheeled away to Stamford Bridge leisure club where it was claimed he had spent the entire evening.
Both papers quoted a Chelsea statement saying: 'The situation is very clear. Both matches were controlled by UEFA and they were more than satisfied on both nights that their ruling was intact, hence the statements that were issued by UEFA at the time and subsequently.
'The only reason to publish this so close to a big match is to serve an agenda that is intended to undermine our team.'
Chelsea play the first leg of this season's Champions League semi-final against Liverpool at Stamford Bridge on Wednesday.
The Daily Mail said UEFA would not be taking up the alleged episode with Mourinho. The Times suggested they were unlikely to act because of the time lapse.
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add to that most people believe that the fitness coach was wearing an ear piece under his hat
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03-16-2011, 11:31 AM
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First Line Centre
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Again - I'm not a Fergie supporter but banning the manager for comments is papering over the cracks. What punishment is there for not sending off Luiz? Of giving that penalty at the end?
Fix the problem instead of pretending the integrity of the officials is being questioned when the managers speak out about it. Their integrity is being damaged by the fans seeing the mistakes in living colour on MOTD. Help the refs - quit forcing them to be omniscient.
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03-16-2011, 11:35 AM
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#1050
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Franchise Player
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Fulham are erecting a statue of Micheal Jackson outside Craven Cottage
yes really
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03-16-2011, 11:35 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf
Fulham are erecting a statue of Micheal Jackson outside Craven Cottage
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haha I couldn't believe it either
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03-16-2011, 12:40 PM
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#1053
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Location: East London
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Originally Posted by SeoulFire
Yeah no kidding since it has never been done before at all...
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All it took was two words, I'm becoming rather efficient.
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Originally Posted by Locke
What do you want man? Was the foul a yellow? Absolutely, was the foul potentially a red? Potentially.
But he jumped up instantly and then rolled around for a bit, and then had to be taken off on a stretcher. For a cut?
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Are you serious? Good God...
Nani's reaction should have no impact on the severity of the punishment for Carragher's actions. It doesn't matter if he scraped him or impaled him and if Nani walked away or cried, the tackle warranted a red.
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03-16-2011, 12:41 PM
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#1054
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Originally Posted by Locke
What do you want man? Was the foul a yellow? Absolutely, was the foul potentially a red? Potentially.
But he jumped up instantly and then rolled around for a bit, and then had to be taken off on a stretcher. For a cut?
And then he was listed as injured for a month and then he played yesterday.
So whats the truth then? They say one thing and then go ahead and do something else entirely. No wonder theres doubt.
You're right about one thing though, it really does expose some people's knowledge of the game.
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Carragher is a thug and that was a red. Would the bone need to be broken to get a red and not merely exposed?
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03-16-2011, 12:49 PM
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#1055
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by SeoulFire
Carragher is a thug and that was a red. Would the bone need to be broken to get a red and not merely exposed?
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Who personally apologized after the game.
I dont know the extent of the injury, so I'm not going to comment on it. I could definitely see how that could have or should have been a red.
I mean, if Gerrard stepping on Carrick's toe warranted a red and Berbatov's occasional take off deserves a penalty, then absolutely that warranted a red. No team will ever finish with 11 players ever again.
The injury report stated that Nani would miss a month, and then he played barely a week later.
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03-16-2011, 12:56 PM
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In fairness - the injury wasn't the reason he'd miss a month. It was the fear of infection after the wound was closed and that it had healed enough for not to be an issue. Or so I read.
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03-16-2011, 04:02 PM
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#1057
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf
Will be interesting of Fergie goes to the lengths that the special one did during his touchline ban.
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He wont have to. The FA's version of the touchline ban allows managers to speak to players and be in the tunnel before the game, at half time, and immediately after the game. So essentially it's a useless paper charge and just making a statement.
I have to agree with Coys1882. Has anyone heard of match officials this season being punished for butchering basic calls every week? I haven't.
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03-16-2011, 04:13 PM
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#1058
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Franchise Player
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Webb was sent down to the championship for awhile a few years ago after gifting United a penalty against Spurs
so it does in extreme cases happen
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03-16-2011, 04:23 PM
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#1059
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Coys1882
In fairness - the injury wasn't the reason he'd miss a month. It was the fear of infection after the wound was closed and that it had healed enough for not to be an issue. Or so I read.
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OK, I hadnt heard that.
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Originally Posted by united
He wont have to. The FA's version of the touchline ban allows managers to speak to players and be in the tunnel before the game, at half time, and immediately after the game. So essentially it's a useless paper charge and just making a statement.
I have to agree with Coys1882. Has anyone heard of match officials this season being punished for butchering basic calls every week? I haven't.
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This.
The touchline ban is a joke, and I'm sure he hardly cares, and why should he? But he also knew that going in to those press conferences which I'm sure means that the probability of a touchline ban was hardly a deterrent.
Also, it would be nice to hear about officials getting reprimanded for poor decisions. As fans it would at least let us know that someone is doing something and maybe alleviate a little frustration.
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03-16-2011, 04:53 PM
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I will say that in fairness to the refs, they probably have one of the most difficult officiating jobs on the planet. The rampant simulation/diving is pretty disgusting and because of this the job of the ref is much more difficult.
Make diving subject to video review and hand out match bans accordingly and - most importantly - stick with it. This should cut down on the amount of diving which should ease the burden on the officials. The players' actions on the pitch play a big part in the decisions and they should also be held accountable. As of now, there is little downside to diving and a rather large upside. This forces the officials into impossible split-second decisions every match.
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