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Old 01-15-2020, 12:35 PM   #1041
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It is time to move on.

What pisses me off is the Flames lost their follow-up game to the BofA and the Oilers won theirs. Right back where we started.
Points-wise, yes.

Psychologically, no.
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Old 01-15-2020, 12:37 PM   #1042
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This is so stupid. The press is pushing and pushing for something to happen trying to stir up controversy. Let it die, report on the sport and don't try to influence the sport. This is the exact reason I can't stand Ron MacLean and Kelly Hrudey, neither has ever had an original thought all they try to do is stir up crap and then cry about it when something they pushed for happens.

Do you honestly thing Chucky cares what some cementhead in Edmonton or the press thinks. If Kassian jumps him again he will just not fight him and enrage the Oiler fans and press corp. I have only ever seen one get even build up occur in 50 years of watching the sport and that was when Domi and Probert built up a fight and had it happen. It took 2 years for the Red Wings to go back at Lemieux and that was after the season had been settled and McCarthy went after revenge.
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Old 01-15-2020, 12:50 PM   #1043
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They should call up Lemberg for the game too and go Ducks on them.
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Old 01-15-2020, 12:52 PM   #1044
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This is so stupid. The press is pushing and pushing for something to happen trying to stir up controversy. Let it die, report on the sport and don't try to influence the sport. This is the exact reason I can't stand Ron MacLean and Kelly Hrudey, neither has ever had an original thought all they try to do is stir up crap and then cry about it when something they pushed for happens.

Do you honestly thing Chucky cares what some cementhead in Edmonton or the press thinks. If Kassian jumps him again he will just not fight him and enrage the Oiler fans and press corp. I have only ever seen one get even build up occur in 50 years of watching the sport and that was when Domi and Probert built up a fight and had it happen. It took 2 years for the Red Wings to go back at Lemieux and that was after the season had been settled and McCarthy went after revenge.
It is a bit ridiculous. I watched the clip, they didn't say anything that we didn't expect. Not sure why Wills would post something like that, trying to get people to click and check out the sound bite but it was anticlimactic.

Chucky definitely doesn't care, all I know is that the next game he won't be letting up. He may in fact have penalties called for the same hits in these next games for the NHL to stop stuff from happening. Which would really suck if this was the case, how entertaining was that last game? Isn't that what the NHL wants? The Calgary press need to let it go and move on.
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Flames just need to win games...points wise the Oilers are just another team of many in the race. Oilers can act like idiots if they want but it will likely cost them another loss

If I were the Flames I wouldn't take any more questions about a game from almost a week ago...where an OILERS player got suspended
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They should call up Lemberg for the game too and go Ducks on them.
No thanks. I remember when we were all geared up for Doughty vs Tkachuk and the Kings just kicked our asses on the scoreboard instead.
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Old 01-15-2020, 12:59 PM   #1047
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I actually didn't mind Kassian's comments, both after the game and the suspension.
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Any time one of your best 3 players gets rag-dolled by anyone it would be big news with any team.
Yeah he was hurt so badly that he was part of the winning goal on the following power play. If Kassian played for Carolina this story would have died within 24 hours.
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Old 01-15-2020, 01:01 PM   #1049
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I actually didn't mind Kassian's comments, both after the game and the suspension.
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threatening a player and saying you would do a suspendable act again

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Should he do anything its premeditated...by 2 weeks

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shocking

threatening a player and saying you would do a suspendable act again

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Should he do anything its pre-meditated...by 2 weeks
OK, maybe not all of his comments, although he did ramble on....
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shocking

threatening a player and saying you would do a suspendable act again

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Should he do anything its pre-meditated...by 2 weeks
No kidding right?

Imagine going to court and being let off with a stern warning. Then stepping outside the court room and immediately going on national TV to say you're going to commit that crime again as soon as you can.
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Old 01-15-2020, 01:03 PM   #1052
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Points-wise, yes.

Psychologically, no.
If the Flames lost to the Oilers and beat Montreal the Oilers would be two points up on the Flames right now

Games against teams in the race with you are certainly more valuable (although winning both would have been nice)
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Should he do anything its pre-meditated...by 2 weeks
Yup, you got your mens rea, now you need your actus reus.
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So much for the false narrative of "FlAmES LeAdErS ANgrY WItH ChuCKy"
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This is so stupid. The press is pushing and pushing for something to happen trying to stir up controversy. Let it die, report on the sport and don't try to influence the sport. This is the exact reason I can't stand Ron MacLean and Kelly Hrudey, neither has ever had an original thought all they try to do is stir up crap and then cry about it when something they pushed for happens.
I like both of them, Hrudey has really surprised me over the years as being an excellent media person.

The role of the media is to sell advertising, period. It is certainly not to report on a sport. If it was, you would see equal sections on badminton, ballet and hockey.

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Do you honestly thing Chucky cares what some cementhead in Edmonton or the press thinks. If Kassian jumps him again he will just not fight him and enrage the Oiler fans and press corp. I have only ever seen one get even build up occur in 50 years of watching the sport and that was when Domi and Probert built up a fight and had it happen. It took 2 years for the Red Wings to go back at Lemieux and that was after the season had been settled and McCarthy went after revenge.
Domi and Probert were certainly from the era of big fights, lot's of people miss that. The Draper/Lemiuex incident is certainly similar to current events, except I still don't get how after Kassian attacked Tkachuk, why is Kassian still so angry?
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Old 01-15-2020, 01:21 PM   #1056
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, except I still don't get how after Kassian attacked Tkachuk, why is Kassian still so angry?
Because the press is looking for a response and making him feel good about being the victim. The guy is a full on moron and they are making him out as some saint. All these broadcasters talking about the "code" and "answering the bell" have been former players who never had to do either.
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Old 01-15-2020, 01:23 PM   #1057
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It took 2 years for the Red Wings to go back at Lemieux and that was after the season had been settled and McCarthy went after revenge.
That just isn't true - it was the next season, second matchup between the two teams that Lemieux was a part of.

Good summary of the events.

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Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out what change to the sequence of events would calm the bloodlust.

If Tkachuk would have fought? Well remove the rage blinders, watch the video again and see that Tkachuk didn't have a chance to square up? But we know that Tkachuk probably wouldn't have fought, he's said as much. So what if he skates a way and one of Rinaldo or Lucic answer for him? They would still call him a coward. But maybe less frothing at the mouth?

If Tkachuk was penalized or suspended?

If Kassian wasn't suspended?

If Tkachuk didn't hit him in the first place? Well okay snowflakes. Those borderline hits happen all the time in the playoffs. Tkachuk himself was leveled by Zadorov, and looked off the rest of the series.

As far as the games go, Tkachuk must laugh himself to sleep every night. He played right into his hands.

As far as the media league wide narrative about Matthew Satan Tkachuk picking on poor innocent Kassian? I'm still perplexed

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Speaking of players sticking up for Kassian, that real tough guy Scottie Upshall had 8 fights in over 700 games. He fought Panarin, Tyler Kennedy, Andrew Ference and other notable tough guys. He was one of the worst backstabbers in the NHL and NEVER answered the bell.

Ray Ferraro, nothing needs to be said. The only commentator that gave a decent answer was Mike Johnson on TSN, said why should Tkachuk fight for a clean hit. Also said in response to comments about cementhead and others going after Johnny in response then that is open season on McDavid and German Gretzky so it is stupid to even mention that.

Posting way too much on this but it just pisses me off that people like Wills and the dummies in Edmonton won't let it go.
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That just isn't true - it was the next season, second matchup between the two teams that Lemieux was a part of.

Good summary of the events.

Sorry I said 2 years and should have said 2 games, which was all they played in a season against each other, so only 1 season.
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