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Old 05-12-2016, 03:37 PM   #1041
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And another study that shows teenage pot-use increases later risk for schizophrenia.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21363868
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And another.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2892048
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More evidence that legalization greatly increases marijuana use in the young.

https://learnaboutsam.org/wp-content...ruary-2016.pdf
How about you stop posting articles about marijuana use in the young. That is literally the only leg you have to stand on and we've already countered it very well...

Meanwhile you can't tell us how weed is 'highly dangerous'.

Water is more dangerous than weed for ####s sake. You can OD on water, you can't OD on weed.

I'm sick and tired of your lies.
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Old 05-12-2016, 03:41 PM   #1044
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A Swedish article from 1987.

Holy #### dude.
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A Swedish article from 1987.

Holy #### dude.
Sample size of 50,000 participants. There was a follow-up. That is excellent social science.

Read the one above. That one is from 2011, and demonstrated the same effect.
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A Swedish article from 1987.

Holy #### dude.
Now we have to swear to make a point?
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So, the evidence is clear. Legalization increases use among the young. The young are extremely vulnerable to rare, and awful psychopathologies associated with use of the drug.

So yes, this correlation makes it seem that marijuana is a highly dangerous drug.
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Well since this thread is now an exercise in trolling, here's Towelie

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It should probably be "lazy dresser" or "hates figuring out what to wear every morning."
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So, the evidence is clear. Legalization increases use among the young. The young are extremely vulnerable to rare, and awful psychopathologies associated with use of the drug.

So yes, this correlation makes it seem that marijuana is a highly dangerous drug.
This is another study with correlation vs. causation issues...

Here's a more recent article which debunks your old ass study.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/24/58...mplicated-than

Schizophrenics are more likely to smoke weed than non-schizophrenics.
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I think you've completely missed the point Peter and I are trying to raise Bandwagon.

And he isn't lying to you. You are choosing to be obtuse.

Simple form for you:

1. Exposing children to marijuana has been linked to an increased chance of developing mental illness later in life.

2. Legalizing marijuana increases access to marijuana for all. Including children.

3. Children are mentally and physically unable to make proper risk adjusted decisions.

4. Logically, the combined effects of 1, 2 & 3 may lead to higher instances of mental illness in society.

5. Society therefore has a responsibility to evaluate this carefully for the greater good.
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I think you've completely missed the point Peter and I are trying to raise Bandwagon.

And he isn't lying to you. You are choosing to be obtuse.

Simple form for you:

1. Exposing children to marijuana has been linked to an increased chance of developing mental illness later in life.

2. Legalizing marijuana increases access to marijuana for all. Including children.

3. Children are mentally and physically unable to make proper risk adjusted decisions.

4. Logically, the combined effects of 1, 2 & 3 may lead to higher instances of mental illness in society.

5. Society therefore has a responsibility to evaluate this carefully for the greater good.
I'm the one being obtuse lol? I want what you two are smoking.

I'm not even going to respond to your points because they have been countered countless times already.

It's you guys that pick and choose which aspect you want to focus on while completely ignoring everything else.
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This is another study with correlation vs. causation issues...

Here's a more recent article which debunks your old ass study.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/24/58...mplicated-than

Schizophrenics are more likely to smoke weed than non-schizophrenics.
Dude, that article actually lends more credence to what I have been saying! Stop drinking the bong-water flavoured Kool-Aid (heh).

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But Evins doesn't think these results rule out previous findings that cannabis use increases a person's risk for developing schizophrenia. "Both may be true," she says. This sentiment was echoed by Wolfram Kawohl, a psychiatrist at the University of Zurich, who said the results show that "the connection is more complicated than some people may have thought," and that "both connections may exist parallel along with possible others."
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"there is evidence that in high-risk populations, cannabis can be highly adverse, so arguments claiming that cannabis is innocuous are equally flawed."
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Now we have to swear to make a point?
Would you rather I condescend like Peter? oh wait I've probably done that too.
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I'm the one being obtuse lol? I want what you two are smoking.

I'm not even going to respond to your points because they have been countered countless times already.

It's you guys that pick and choose which aspect you want to focus on while completely ignoring everything else.
No, Bandwagon. You should try counting them. Seriously. You make ludicrous accusations about our credibility, and the strength of the evidence, and when countered, immediately retreat between this imaginary wall of counter-evidence.

Even if marijuana only had an adverse effect on those with genes for schizophrenia (I have heard 1 in 3000), then the impact would be tremendous, and should be restricted on that basis. It is like a population-level game of Russian roulette.
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Dude, that article actually lends more credence to what I have been saying! Stop drinking the bong-water flavoured Kool-Aid (heh).
^ These are the lies I'm referring to ILikeToPuck. He even had the balls to say that his side was the majority...

Are you serious?

They are just wording it so it's not "matter of fact" like you have been talking.

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Now, a new study, published today in Molecular Psychiatry, lends further support to the idea that schizophrenia plays a role in an individual's likelihood of smoking weed, by showing that the genetic variants predicting schizophrenia can also be used to predict a person's tendency to smoke pot, regardless of their mental health history.

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Dude, that article actually lends more credence to what I have been saying! Stop drinking the bong-water flavoured Kool-Aid (heh).
This is the worst post in this thread.


Bong water tastes terrible.
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No, Bandwagon. You should try counting them. Seriously. You make ludicrous accusations about our credibility, and the strength of the evidence, and when countered, immediately retreat between this imaginary wall of counter-evidence.

Even if marijuana only had an adverse effect on those with genes for schizophrenia (I have heard 1 in 3000), then the impact would be tremendous, and should be restricted on that basis. It is like a population-level game of Russian roulette.
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Are you serious?

They are just wording it so it's not "matter of fact" like you have been talking.



^ These are the lies I'm referring to ILikeToPuck.
I don't understand this sentence. That article was a collection of experts talking about how there is certainly a strong relationship between cannabis use and schizophrenia, but they aren't exactly sure what it is.
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