Connecticut School Shooting

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

Obviously a poor shot. You can do a lot of damage with a 9mm pistol and several 15 round clips.

What an ignorant post.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

Obviously a poor shot. You can do a lot of damage with a 9mm pistol and several 15 round clips.

no you cant, I don't know of any pistols that take a clip.

Oh maybe this idiot wanted to kill just one person and no one else?

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Baaarrden

Legitimately time for a mass-shootings thread I think.

2 dead, 1 wounded in shooting at Ky. community college

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...oting/1837859/

It's a sign of the times when another school shooting is posted and yet the current posts in this thread are just people bickering about how much damage a pistol can or can't do, as if the shooting wasn't even posted in the thread.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

What an ignorant post.

No it's not ignorant. I was responding to the previous poster highlighting the fact that a rifle was not used and there were no fatalities. All I was saying is that pistols can be just as dangerous.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by PIMking

no you cant, I don't know of any pistols that take a clip.

Oh maybe this idiot wanted to kill just one person and no one else?

Any semi-automatic pistol takes a clip(magazine).

[vektor]

fata

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

Any semi-automatic pistol takes a clip(magazine).

no they're not the same damn thing, I'm sorry, I'm just tired of the anti gun people and grabbers try to tell us the .223 ar15 "assault" rifle is a military rifle blah blah blah and 30million round clips blah blah blah when they're don't even know what the hell they're talking about

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by PIMking

no they're not the same damn thing, I'm sorry, I'm just tired of the anti gun people and grabbers try to tell us the .223 ar15 "assault" rifle is a military rifle blah blah blah and 30million round clips blah blah blah when they're don't even know what the hell they're talking about

You're really arguing semantics. It's a common to use the term "clip" when referring to a firearms magazine. It's a term used commonly amongst, military, police and private contractors. Maybe concern yourself more with the fact that AR-15 assault rifles are far too common and easily accessible in the US, than people using incorrect terms for nomenclature.

[worth]

It is semantics, but he is correct. There is no one in the military that calls a magazine a clip. It is a magazine only (from first hand experience). Hollywood uses the terms interchangeably.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by worth

It is semantics, but he is correct. There is no one in the military that calls a magazine a clip. It is a magazine only (from first hand experience). Hollywood uses the terms interchangeably.

Well, from first hand experience I've worked with military in the past and on the range have had them refer to magazines as "mags" or "clips". Again it truly is semantics. Hell, most dictionaries even recognize the fact that the two terms are interchangeable. he probably loses sleep over drive throughs being called drive thrus. Languages and dialects evolve. I digress, the point of all of this was that high capacity magazines whether for a rifle or handgun give the person using them the ability to inflict more harm than a lower capacity magazine would.

[Red Slinger]

Conservative commentator David Frum disagrees with the NRA and Anne Coulter on guns.

http://us.cnn.com/2013/01/15/opinion...html?hpt=hp_t3

Last year, 83 people died by homicide in Baton Rouge. Of that number, 87% were black, and 87% were male. Two-thirds had been in trouble with the law before, and one-third had been in trouble with the law for drugs. The median age of victims: 26.
"Of the perpetrators, the median age was 22. Get this: 96% of them were black, and 90% were male. Almost two-thirds had previous arrests. One out of four had a drug record.

Eighty percent of those who commit suicide with a gun are white males

a gun kept in the house is 43 times more likely to kill a household member than to be used in self-defense.

The gun laws intended to put guns into the hands of "good guys" are the laws that also multiply guns in the hands of "bad guys" -- bad guys who might not have become such bad guys if the guns had not been available to their hands.

I don't know what's going on with Frum but lately he's been making much more sense (minus a recent articule on marijuana).

And for something a little more like what you used to enspouse:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ent/?hpt=hp_t3

"Are the president's kids more important than yours?" a narrator says in the 30 second ad. "Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools, when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school."

[Northendzone]

^ good grief reading those stats in the first paragraph hurt my mind. Can that be summarized in a table of some kind.

[Azure]

Males that are involved in crime are more likely to be shot and killed than males who are not.

[jayswin]

...and people shouldn't keep guns in their houses...

a gun kept in the house is 43 times more likely to kill a household member than to be used in self-defense.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by worth

It is semantics, but he is correct. There is no one in the military that calls a magazine a clip. It is a magazine only (from first hand experience). Hollywood uses the terms interchangeably.

Really, we called them whatever we damn well pleased, I mean we were carrying guns and all.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by PIMking

no they're not the same damn thing, I'm sorry, I'm just tired of the anti gun people and grabbers try to tell us the .223 ar15 "assault" rifle is a military rifle blah blah blah and 30million round clips blah blah blah when they're don't even know what the hell they're talking about

Who cares what they are called in the gun fanatics politcally correct terminology. They have lots of bullets that can be dispersed quickly and accurately for maximum killing effect.

[GoinAllTheWay]

Originally Posted by flameswin

...and people shouldn't keep guns in their houses...

See this stat just points to extreme stupidity. I can not imagine why at any time, anyone would have live rounds loaded into a gun while it's in their home.

Want to own firearms? Fine. Got one of them for "home defense" Fine...just keep that damn thing unloaded. Doesn't take much time to fire in a magazine.

[CaptainCrunch]

Under 4 seconds to load a magazine and chamber a round unless your a uncoordinated dundering blockhead

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Baaarrden

Legitimately time for a mass-shootings thread I think.

2 dead, 1 wounded in shooting at Ky. community college

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...oting/1837859/

And how would this qualify as a mass shooting? There are certainly way too many actual mass shootings in the US, and way too many shootings in general, but let's not get carried away with calling any shooting that can potentially be tied to a school or workplace a mass shooting.

[East Coast Flame]

Obama and Bidens proposals today to congress: Universal background checks, ban on military-style assault weapons, 10-round magazine limit and help law enforcement punish those who are selling weapons illegally.

Definitely a good start.