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Old 10-21-2023, 04:52 PM   #10541
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No idea. But just to use an example, I pulled up Lynx Air and looked at a flight from YYC to YVR leaving November 23 and returning November 28. That flight is 49 bucks each way - $98 return. Not bad... Adding the cat to the trip is 83.99 each way, making the trip around $270 return. It's not even close.

Flair is the same, pet in cabin is $82.95 each way and flights are often under $50.
I mean, I'm going to pick on you here just a bit, but $98 return for a chair in the sky is "not bad"??? Its a freakin steal and probably a money loser for the airline. A round trip Uber to downtown is probably the same price, but a 52 minute nap at 38000ft over the Rocky Mountains is "not bad"

This is why we can't have nice things.

All of these "low cost carriers" business plan is ancillary revenue, so the 82 dollar cat fare is not in the least bit surprising.
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No idea. But just to use an example, I pulled up Lynx Air and looked at a flight from YYC to YVR leaving November 23 and returning November 28. That flight is 49 bucks each way - $98 return. Not bad... Adding the cat to the trip is 83.99 each way, making the trip around $270 return. It's not even close.

Flair is the same, pet in cabin is $82.95 each way and flights are often under $50.

And Flair would probably still find a way to lose the cat.
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And Flair would probably still find a way to lose the cat.
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And Flair would probably still find a way to lose the cat.
One time they tried to put him in the overhead compartment and I had to explain why that was a bad idea and I wasn't going to let them do that.
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####ing morons too scared to drive faster than 20 km/hr. It's not even a playground zone you sack of piss.
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^Why the hell is it so expensive for the cat to sit under the seat?

They stopped doing that to them, at least in Canada now you get to pay a single fare even if each bovine cheek needs its own seat, which is annoying since this is not only a preventable problem but is unfair to those of us who can't exploit this two-for-one seat business.
As a so-called bovine (I prefer the term fat ####) I think it's fair to require people who take up more than a single seat to pay extra. There are exceptions though. I have a cousin with Lipoedema, which makes are lower half abnormally wide while the rest of her is skinny. I don't know if she should pay more because her condition is hormonal.
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As a so-called bovine (I prefer the term fat ####) I think it's fair to require people who take up more than a single seat to pay extra. There are exceptions though. I have a cousin with Lipoedema, which makes are lower half abnormally wide while the rest of her is skinny. I don't know if she should pay more because her condition is hormonal.
If larger (width wise) people get an extra seat then I think tall people should, too. When sitting, my femur is a few inches too long for the space from my seat to the seat back in front of me in economy. I always upgrade to business or first class when I fly now...not because I'm so great, but because otherwise I truly don't fit in the seat. It does bother me the upgrade isn't free, though.
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####ing morons too scared to drive faster than 20 km/hr. It's not even a playground zone you sack of piss.
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If larger (width wise) people get an extra seat then I think tall people should, too. When sitting, my femur is a few inches too long for the space from my seat to the seat back in front of me in economy. I always upgrade to business or first class when I fly now...not because I'm so great, but because otherwise I truly don't fit in the seat. It does bother me the upgrade isn't free, though.
They don't need to upgrade to first class free, they just need to let us have the emergency exit row seats. On a lot of flights I'm on they end up just being empty because they cost more and people don't want to pay it, but you can't move there after the flight takes off for regulation reasons. It's annoying.

I often pay for a seat upgrade but not for the extra leg room (although I need it too), but to get close to the front of the plane so I can get off and out of the terminal while all those slow losers are struggling with their overhead luggage...
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If larger (width wise) people get an extra seat then I think tall people should, too. When sitting, my femur is a few inches too long for the space from my seat to the seat back in front of me in economy. I always upgrade to business or first class when I fly now...not because I'm so great, but because otherwise I truly don't fit in the seat. It does bother me the upgrade isn't free, though.
Do large people need to prove they’re too large for a single seat?
Why can’t LONG people have a validation process where they don’t need to pay extra for the extra leg room seats? I’m also a “long” legged person who has suffered mightily on some flight and some theatre seats where I literally cannot sit facing forward and have to manspread and/or keep switching to diagonal left/right. For flights I often can’t allow the seat in front to recline because I can’t CHOOSE to shorten my femurs as I’ve had to explain a few times.
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Old 10-21-2023, 09:49 PM   #10552
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Do large people need to prove they’re too large for a single seat?
Yes, you need to submit a form completed by your doctor including your height, weight, and waist and hip measurements.

Keep in mind, the only reason the airlines do this is because someone sued and the courts ruled that they're legally required to accommodate. If some super-tall person were to sue because they were being discriminated against, the airlines would probably need to change their policies for tall people as well.
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Yes, you need to submit a form completed by your doctor including your height, weight, and waist and hip measurements.

Keep in mind, the only reason the airlines do this is because someone sued and the courts ruled that they're legally required to accommodate. If some super-tall person were to sue because they were being discriminated against, the airlines would probably need to change their policies for tall people as well.
What is the name of this form and does it apply to international flights? I did a quick Google search for said form and it came back with comments such as ‘tall people don’t have a disability and should have to pay for more leg room’. One comment suggested that tall people should have to pay for extra leg room seats so that others can recline. I have a long flight coming up and tried to get seats with extra leg room but it’s hundreds more for each leg on a six leg flight. The legroom upgrades would equal the same price as the original ticket. I can’t wait to have my knees slammed multiple times by the person in front of me trying to recline.

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Air Canada form: https://www.aircanada.com/content/da...PDF/en/fft.pdf

WestJet form: https://www.westjet.com/content/dam/...if-form_EN.pdf


They only apply to domestic flights.
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To clarify - I’m not trying to be mean or an @$$ in my comment about large people having to prove need. I’m legit curious and don’t know.
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Did I screw up the YouTube link? Just an immature Family Guy reference. Peter wanted to go on a roller coaster but they had a size restriction, gauged by how funny the person looks on a mini motor scooter.
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People who recline on a plane with someone behind them are the scum of the earth and probably closeted oiler fans.

Congrats, you've SLIGHTlY inclined and gained really nothing, but, now your crushing the persons knees behind you.
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I don’t really care about people reclining. Being 5’9 has it perks, I guess. Airlines should allow enough space so people don’t have sit nearly leaning forward without the person having their legs pinned.

What I do hate is the seats are so crappy that any movement of the person in front of you causes the tray / display console to shake.
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People who recline on a plane with someone behind them are the scum of the earth and probably closeted oiler fans.

Congrats, you've SLIGHTlY inclined and gained really nothing, but, now your crushing the persons knees behind you.
If that is happening, it is down to the design of the seating.

It depends on the flight and the airline. For instance, the longest Ryanair flight is ~3.5 hours. Their seat configuration is ‘snug’, so they understandably have seats that don’t recline.

For transatlantic flights or those to Australia, you’d hope to have seats that recline - and you do.

As long as you’re not reclining during mealtimes, I don’t see the problem.

However, if I had someone such as Sliver behind me, I’d respect the impact I would have on his comfort and not recline - or I’d at least ask if it was ok. Mind you, if I was arguing with him about dogs on CP, my seat would be going back.
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