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Old 10-24-2025, 01:13 PM   #10521
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There will be a ton of teams wanting Kadri. I'd say the most desirable player on the market right now. Should be able to get a HUGE return.
Has the NTC been clarified? CapWages says the 13 team list kicks in on July 1 and is a full NMC until then. Puckpedia says it is a 13 team no trade list today which means they flames could deal him to over half the league without his say
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Old 10-24-2025, 01:14 PM   #10522
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Has the NTC been clarified? CapWages says the 13 team list kicks in on July 1 and is a full NMC until then. Puckpedia says it is a 13 team no trade list today which means they flames could deal him to over half the league without his say
Yes, it's a 13 team no trade list today.

Puckpedia changed it after Friedman mentioned it. Pike has confirmed it.

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Old 10-24-2025, 01:15 PM   #10523
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Has the NTC been clarified? CapWages says the 13 team list kicks in on July 1 and is a full NMC until then. Puckpedia says it is a 13 team no trade list today which means they flames could deal him to over half the league without his say
capwages says that he has a 13 team no trade list today, same as Puckpedia. He would have submitted it by July 1st.
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This changes everything in my opinion about a Kadri trade he can be moved to 18 teams without say. Value will be huge
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My targets for young RH C would be Konsta Helenius or by some big swap (mews +?) with Seattle for Jake O’Brian. Feel like that’s the type of trade I’d love to see.

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Old 10-24-2025, 01:23 PM   #10527
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Ras is in the final year of his contract. I might be missing something.
wrong Andersen, took me a minute too
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Old 10-24-2025, 01:25 PM   #10528
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I was definitely missing something.
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Old 10-24-2025, 01:25 PM   #10529
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My targets for young RH C would be Konsta Helenius or by some big swap (mews +?) with Seattle for Liam O’Brian. Feel like that’s the type of trade I’d love to see.
I’m sure you meant Jake not Liam. Much rather a top center than a 4th line goon… haha
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Dach+1st+2nd would be a solid return.

I know it is unlikely they can do it all this year but getting 2 more 1st this year and a couple of extra seconds would have Conroy with crazy amounts of flexibility and options going into the draft.
I would argue Kadri is still an elite 2nd line C, with snarl and playoff pedigree.
He is the type of player that can push a team over the edge. I expect him to remain at this level for at least 2 more seasons.

Him on Montreal would be a perfect fit.

We aren't getting Hage, and we may need to take a cap dump or retain salary, but I could see:

-1st + Zharovsky or
-1st + Reinbacher

Zharovsky is a russian winger/centre who is nearly PPG playing his rookie year in the KHL.

Reinbacher, despite his draft pedigree, has been a major disappointment in Montreal as he has been injured for better parts of 3 seasons. When playing he has proven to be a steady, cerebral, LD, without elite elements. Could be a great partner for Zayne if he could stay healthy.

Both prospects and the 1st are unknowns, for a proven playoff performer. I think it is a fair trade.
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I’m sure you meant Jake not Liam. Much rather a top center than a 4th line goon… haha
Thank youuu. More coffee needed. Yes, him.

Second area, Lightning McQueen from Anaheim or Cootes from Van.
Anaheim off to a hot start and they have no room for a young centre currently - maybe they want to make a fun deal (lofty and optimistic)
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Old 10-24-2025, 01:34 PM   #10532
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Thank youuu. More coffee needed. Yes, him.

Second area, Lightning McQueen from Anaheim or Cootes from Van.
Anaheim off to a hot start and they have no room for a young centre currently - maybe they want to make a fun deal (lofty and optimistic)
I would take a hard pass on McQueen myself.
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Old 10-24-2025, 01:34 PM   #10533
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So.....all that verdict and push back on Conroy NOT entertaining trading Kadri this offseason because he has a NMC, etc., was bogus?
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Old 10-24-2025, 01:41 PM   #10534
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I would take a hard pass on McQueen myself.
I just feel like it could be a worthwhile risk is all. Since Anaheim will likely have some concern too it could make him available
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Old 10-24-2025, 01:51 PM   #10535
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If:

Kadri for a 1st round pick (2026) +
Andersson for a 1st round pick (2026) +
Vegas's 1st round pick (2026)
Flames 1st round pick (2026)

We have the potential to have 4 1st round picks going into a deep draft 2 years before new arena. This gives our later first round picks time to develop before the arena and Flames 1 more year after this to get a few more early picks.

Conroy has a chance to rebuild on the fly with our prospect pool and be competitive by the time new arena comes. Really hope this is on his mind.
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So.....all that verdict and push back on Conroy NOT entertaining trading Kadri this offseason because he has a NMC, etc., was bogus?
Well it was what everyone understood.
And it isn't clear when it changed. During the summer at the start of the season?
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So.....all that verdict and push back on Conroy NOT entertaining trading Kadri this offseason because he has a NMC, etc., was bogus?
I think the push back was from the season prior to the trade deadline (when Nelson was dealt). He had his NMC then.
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Old 10-24-2025, 02:02 PM   #10538
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If:

Kadri for a 1st round pick (2026) +
Andersson for a 1st round pick (2026) +
Vegas's 1st round pick (2026)
Flames 1st round pick (2026)

We have the potential to have 4 1st round picks going into a deep draft 2 years before new arena. This gives our later first round picks time to develop before the arena and Flames 1 more year after this to get a few more early picks.

Conroy has a chance to rebuild on the fly with our prospect pool and be competitive by the time new arena comes. Really hope this is on his mind.

I have had the thought cross my mind what if the hesitation to trade Andersson or kadri ( again i dont think at any point kadri has wanted out) was because one of the asks is a first this year and the strength of the draft is making teams hesitate? Again have no proof just s lingering thought.

Also agree that this draft could be a real game changer. Lets say both get traded just on initial likes you could walk out of the drafts first round with the likes of Lawrence if we pick top five. Then with 3 20’s picks.

Lawrence, reid, hextall, bjork would be a hell of a first round. Just based on some early projections for the first round.
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Old 10-24-2025, 02:08 PM   #10539
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If Kadri’s goal was not to be traded, what teams would his camp put on his NTC to put the flames in the toughest spot to trade him? Wonder what the strategic method Kadri’s camp would use to make a 13 team NTC feel closer to a full NTC. Ideally, you don’t waste spots on teams the you know the flames won’t trade with (eg. Edmonton or Toronto), teams that don’t have the assets to trade for you (eg. Toronto or Florida) and teams that are likely not in the market to acquire you (eg. San Jose). And worst case, leave teams off the list that you would be ok being traded to (Colorado maybe?).

Imagine a no-trade list of the following:

New Jersey
Utah
Montreal
Winnipeg
Detroit
Seattle
Nashville
LA
St. Louis
Minnesota
Ottawa
Buffalo

So if Kadri’s camp kept the following OFF the NTC list:

Edmonton (flames won’t trade with them)
Toronto (flames won’t trade with them and can’t afford Kadri)
San Jose (not likely wanting to trade for Kadri)
Chicago (not likely wanting to trade for Kadri)
Philadelphia (not likely wanting to trade for Kadri)
Florida (can’t afford Kadri)
Anaheim (not likely wanting to trade for Kadri)
Pittsburgh (not likely wanting to trade for Kadri)
Vegas (likely can’t afford Kadri)
Colorado
Dallas
Long Island (not likely wanting to trade for Kadri)
Columbus (not likely wanting to trade for Kadri)
Boston (not likely wanting to trade for Kadri)
Tampa Bay (not likely wanting to trade for Kadri)
New York (not likely wanting to trade for Kadri)
Carolina
Washington (not likely wanting to trade for Kadri)

In my opinion, that would leave Carolina, Dallas and Colorado as potential options for the flames. Carolina being the best fit I think. They have the assets from the Rantanen trade and could use what he brings to the playoffs. Plus they have plenty of cap space.

Really hoping Pittsburgh surprises and does well this year. Keeping Malkin and Crosby off the trade market helps Kadri’s value.
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Old 10-24-2025, 02:14 PM   #10540
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Monahan and Sillinger are off to a bit of a slow start for Columbus. Both have 1A, in 6GP.

Similar to Frost, Sillinger just strikes me as a future Flame. I wonder if there's a deal to be had there.
Future flame because he's a chronic underperformer who has the tools but cant put it together consistently?

Checks out.
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