American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Came for discussion about the orange idiot. Left disappointed.

haven't you had enough?

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Came for discussion about the orange idiot. Left disappointed.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Come on, guys. According to one poster on this site, Peterson is the most important Canadian intellectual of our generation.

was it a geologist from Calgary?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

How so? Ben Shapiro is super religious and believes everything he says. Even bashing Trump on tariffs.

Because both are insufferable a$$holes

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Jordan Peterson has always been somewhat ambiguous about his religious beliefs. He gets asked it a lot and usually declines to answer. He has said in the past that he follows the moral and philosophical teachings of Christianity and tries to act as if god exists, but is uncommitted to saying whether he actually believes in god or divinity. He has gone to say he doubts it.

So it kind of is a complicated question for him, as it is for a lot of people. If following the teachings of Jesus makes you a Christian, then he is. But if you have to actually commit to believing in god or Christ's divinity, then he wouldn't be considered one. Spirituality is complicated, hard to articulate, and deeply personal.

If that show was supposed to be a bona fide card carrying Christian debating atheists, he is probably on the wrong show. Not that I care for Jordan Peterson, but I wouldn't talk to someone using that tone either. That person seemed like he just wanted to cause a scene.

I will forever distinguish the two by asking the question, why?

Why do you not steal?

Is it because it is morally/empathetically wrong?

Is it because you are afraid you will not go to heaven?

I will admit, most people start in column A, but after a while, Column B comes out

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Came for discussion about the orange idiot. Left disappointed.

Trump posted this today, so have at it

What Vladimir Putin doesn’t realize is that if it weren’t for me, lots of really bad things would have already happened to Russia, and I mean REALLY BAD. He’s playing with fire!

[photon]

Originally Posted by Cappy

I will forever distinguish the two by asking the question, why?

Why do you not steal?

Is it because it is morally/empathetically wrong?

Is it because you are afraid you will not go to heaven?

I will admit, most people start in column A, but after a while, Column B comes out

Yeah the people who believe that you can't be moral without the threat of God's punishment hanging over their head scare me more than anyone else.

[GirlySports]

What about karma? You don't steal because you will get something stolen back now, not in some make believe afterlife.

Or reincarnation, you will come back a cockroach

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

What about karma? You don't steal because you will get something stolen back now, not in some make believe afterlife.

Or reincarnation, you will come back a cockroach

Karma isn't real either.

[Wormius]

Not being immoral is due to empathy in most sane people. You don’t need religion for that, but I guess some people do.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Not being immoral is due to empathy in most sane people. You don’t need religion for that, but I guess some people do.

you would be surprised.

Why do so many people in prison find god?

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Cappy

you would be surprised.

Why do so many people in prison find god?

I suspect boredom.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Cappy

you would be surprised.

Why do so many people in prison find god?

I'd suspect because
a) it looks good at a parole hearing
b) gives them something to do or people to bond with

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Trump posted this today, so have at it

What Vladimir Putin doesn’t realize is that if it weren’t for me, lots of really bad things would have already happened to Russia, and I mean REALLY BAD. He’s playing with fire!

Did he really say that? Trump is kind of right in a way that he has been really good for Russia, just not in the ways he realizes.

[WideReceiver]

I believe in a creator but am not religious. I don’t think you need God to have morals.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by WideReceiver

I believe in a creator but am not religious. I don’t think you need God to have morals. .

Sorry what do you mean by creator?

A single entity responsible for the creating of all life?

[WideReceiver]

Yes, a “God” or entity that created everything. I don’t believe this just happened. (I expect to be vilified for my belief and won’t argue.)

[photon]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

What about karma? You don't steal because you will get something stolen back now, not in some make believe afterlife.

Or reincarnation, you will come back a cockroach

More like when you go to a park but don't pick all the flowers and cut down all the trees.. because if everyone did it there wouldn't be a park to enjoy anymore.

Society functions because enough people adhere to the mores and norms that allow society to function.

So not really karma (i.e. me stealing means I'll get robbed), more like if everyone did something then I'm more likely to become the victim of that thing (regardless of if I engaged in that thing).

I guess on the flip side of my comment about people fearing God's punishment there's also people who don't do things because they fear society's punishment.

I mean there's things I'd be perfectly fine doing because I don't think they cause any harm even if everyone else did them safely but I don't do it because I fear punishment (a ticket or whatever). Such laws I guess exist because we can't be trusted to do those things safely.

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Did he really say that? Trump is kind of right in a way that he has been really good for Russia, just not in the ways he realizes.

That's the actual quote including the caps. Putin is his idol and he's suddenly pissed that Putin is openly mocking him and having a childish tantrum.

Dictators often fall in love with other dictators, but it's not mutually exclusive.



Stalin looked up to Hitler from the day he took power, so much so that even while the Soviet Union was being invaded, he refused to believe it.

Trump is a beta male who's realizing little by little that he isn't an alpha like his idol.

Now even Russia Today is openly mocking Trump's beta male syndrome.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

https://twitter.com/user/status/1926797253500416195