2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Parallex

He's 32 years old, he takes $8,625,000 off the cap per year (for three more years), he isn't the goal scoring machine he used to be, he's a complete ####heel.

... acquisition price would have to be low. Like straight up for Troy Brouwer low.

I would be on board with Perry if Anaheim eats 50%. Having him and Tkachuk on the same team would be fun.

[Husky]

Originally Posted by Parallex

He's 32 years old, he takes $8,625,000 off the cap per year (for three more years), he isn't the goal scoring machine he used to be, he's a complete ####heel.

... acquisition price would have to be low. Like straight up for Troy Brouwer low.

Any successful team has a couple dolid vets on it. If price is low and only 3 years left it provides a guy who comes from a winning organization, knows how to be a top player in the nhl and cup experiences.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Parallex

He's 32 years old, he takes $8,625,000 off the cap per year (for three more years), he isn't the goal scoring machine he used to be, he's a complete ####heel.

... acquisition price would have to be low. Like straight up for Troy Brouwer low.

And salary retained... although Brower for Perry could be close to the same thing.

The thing is, I doubt they'd dump Perry for Brower.

If they do trade Perry then I would be willing to bet they have to retain salary in most situations.

[Oling_Roachinen]

I think Duck fans are a bit more lenient as it wasn't long ago that he was winning the Rocket Richard.

But imagine a new fanbase acquiring a player with an 8.6M+ cap hit and that "goal scorer" failing to score 20 goals. There'd be a straight up mutiny on Treliving by the fanbase.

Unless you think he can reclaim his scoring touch from 3 years ago and easily put up 30+ playing alongside Gaudreau, you need to stay away. No need to get stuck with Minnesota Wild's Dany Healtey 2.0.

[GioforPM]

At 32, and now playing at a speed where opponents can hit him (and like it), his play is going to drop off a cliff. Maybe not next year but soon.

[Oling_Roachinen]

From 34 goals to 17 goals in 2 seasons. I would say there's a case to be made that he's currently falling off that cliff.

[iloveicedhockey]

It's a absolutely massive risk, though it'd be fun having him and Chucky winding up opposing players and fans

[bigpete]

Gross, no to Perry. Production is dramatically falling off and he's got a huge salary. He would essentially become the new Brouwer on thia team. Plus the guy has just done way too many ######y things to the Flames over the years. It would be like trading for Burrows or Kesler.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I would be on board with Perry if Anaheim eats 50%. Having him and Tkachuk on the same team would be fun.

Let the Ducks rot with him on their roster. No two classless parties ever deserved one another more than Perry and the Ducks.

[Mattman]

Two part trade stick with me here:
Ducks might have to start a rebuild here. Would make sense if they wanted to retool on the fly and pick up some young and mobile defense which they seemed to be lacking this year. Maybe take of advantage while they are raw from a 1st round sweep.

D - Brodie (4.65 /3 years)
D - Fox
RW - Brouwer (4.5 mil/3 years)
RW - Foo
2020 2nd rd pick* Conditional

For

RW - Silverberg (2.75 mil/2 years)
RW - Perry (6.2 mil/4 years)(25% retained) or (8.25 mil/2 years, 4.12 mil/ 2 years) (50% retained in last 2 years)

*Conditon being Anaheim keeps the 2nd rnd pick if they choose to retain 50% in last 2 years. If not it's a 2020 3rd.

- Perry still has game.
- He's not a bum he just looks old playing on a stale, slow ducks team this year.
- Corey Perry is 32 years old.
- Troy Brouwer is 32 years old. I'm sure he'd waive his NTC to go to Anaheim.

Anaheim gets some cap flexibility and won't be anchored by Perrys contract. Anaheim gets two roster RWs, a left side d-man and a 20 year old prospect. Anaheim, as incentive, gets to keep Calgary's 2020 2nd round pick if they retain Perry's salary 50% two years down the road, saving cap for Tkachuk and Jankowski contracts.

Silverberg has wicked speed and a quick shot so play him on the 1st.
Gaudreau - Monahan - Silverberg

And honestly how terrifyingly insane would this line be..
Tkachuk - Backlund - Perry

Ferland makes the bottom 6 stronger than the top 6.
(????) - Jankowski - Ferland


and trade #2 is about defense.

Bennett is a young guy under the microscope not doing so hot. Ship him out East so atleast he doesn't come back to bite top hard. Might as take advantage of the Ranger rebuild.

C,LW - Bennet (1.9 mil/2 years)
RW - Frolik (4.3 mil/ 3 years)

for

D - Skjei (RFA)
LW - Buchnevich (RFA)
LW - Belesky (1.9 mil/ 3 years)


Rangers scoring was insanely low this year. Behind Zibanejad and Zuccarello, it's a drop off to 3rd/4th line players. So you get some potentials threats in Frolik and Bennett. I do think the value right across is fair, Flames get 2 RFAs that NYR maybe can't aford with 8 RFA roster players needing contracts next summer.
(And Idk play Belesky on the 4th, bury him in the minors?)

- Brady Skjei, 6"3 left handed D, averaged 21:02 toi and 25 points in 82 games as a 24 year old.
- Pavel Buchnevich, 6"2 and pretty quick for a big guy. 29 points as a rookie and might fit in well beside Jankowski.
- If you've seen the Rangers play you know these guys can play.

Giordano - Hamilton
Skjei - Hamonic
Kulak - Stone

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by Mattman

Two part trade stick with me here:
Ducks might have to start a rebuild here. Would make sense if they wanted to retool on the fly and pick up some young and mobile defense which they seemed to be lacking this year. Maybe take of advantage while they are raw from a 1st round sweep.

D - Brodie (4.65 /3 years)
D - Fox
RW - Brouwer (4.5 mil/3 years)
RW - Foo
2020 2nd rd pick* Conditional

For

RW - Silverberg (2.75 mil/2 years)
RW - Perry (6.2 mil/4 years)(25% retained) or (8.25 mil/2 years, 4.12 mil/ 2 years) (50% retained in last 2 years)

*Conditon being Anaheim keeps the 2nd rnd pick if they choose to retain 50% in last 2 years. If not it's a 2020 3rd.

- Perry still has game.
- He's not a bum he just looks old playing on a stale, slow ducks team this year.
- Corey Perry is 32 years old.
- Troy Brouwer is 32 years old. I'm sure he'd waive his NTC to go to Anaheim.

Anaheim gets some cap flexibility and won't be anchored by Perrys contract. Anaheim gets two roster RWs, a left side d-man and a 20 year old prospect. Anaheim, as incentive, gets to keep Calgary's 2020 2nd round pick if they retain Perry's salary 50% two years down the road, saving cap for Tkachuk and Jankowski contracts.

Silverberg has wicked speed and a quick shot so play him on the 1st.
Gaudreau - Monahan - Silverberg

And honestly how terrifyingly insane would this line be..
Tkachuk - Backlund - Perry

Ferland makes the bottom 6 stronger than the top 6.
(????) - Jankowski - Ferland


and trade #2 is about defense.

Bennett is a young guy under the microscope not doing so hot. Ship him out East so atleast he doesn't come back to bite top hard. Might as take advantage of the Ranger rebuild.

C,LW - Bennet (1.9 mil/2 years)
RW - Frolik (4.3 mil/ 3 years)

for

D - Skjei (RFA)
LW - Buchnevich (RFA)
LW - Belesky (1.9 mil/ 3 years)


Rangers scoring was insanely low this year. Behind Zibanejad and Zuccarello, it's a drop off to 3rd/4th line players. So you get some potentials threats in Frolik and Bennett. I do think the value right across is fair, Flames get 2 RFAs that NYR maybe can't aford with 8 RFA roster players needing contracts next summer.
(And Idk play Belesky on the 4th, bury him in the minors?)

- Brady Skjei, 6"3 left handed D, averaged 21:02 toi and 25 points in 82 games as a 24 year old.
- Pavel Buchnevich, 6"2 and pretty quick for a big guy. 29 points as a rookie and might fit in well beside Jankowski.
- If you've seen the Rangers play you know these guys can play.

Giordano - Hamilton
Skjei - Hamonic
Kulak - Stone

You're mad man!

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Mattman

RW - Perry (6.2 mil/4 years)(25% retained) or (8.25 mil/2 years, 4.12 mil/ 2 years) (50% retained in last 2 years)

*Conditon being Anaheim keeps the 2nd rnd pick if they choose to retain 50% in last 2 years. If not it's a 2020 3rd.

That sort of thing is not allowed. On any retained salary deal, there is one percentage and that percentage (of both cap hit and actual dollars) is retained for every remaining year of the contract.

[Sylvanfan]

No way the Rangers are trading two of their younger guys for an hugely under achieving Bennett and a declining aging and expensive Frolik.

Not to mention that Anaheim at this point has no incentive to trade Silverberg.

Perry at 5.5 million would actually be intriguing. But I don't see Anaheim making that deal with a Division team. I could see a Carolina or Florida making a deal for a guy like Perry.

[kyuss275]

I want Perry with retained salary on the flames!!!
Flames need another pest who can put puck in net.

[Monahammer]

Lol sign me up for Perry and Silverberg but that's a dream trade for us imo. No way the ducks are taking on Brouwer to get rid of Perry.

The ducks are in trouble though. Ryan keslers contract looks so terrible

[Roof-Daddy]

A retained Perry will get enough interest around the league IMO that the Ducks won't trade him to Calgary.

They'd probably just take whatever we give them in return, and throw it back in our faces for years anyways.

[Erick Estrada]

When you look at bringing post apex players in their 30's you end up with guys like Troy Brouwer. Ryan or Perry would be horrible additions given their contracts.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

When you look at bringing post apex players in their 30's you end up with guys like Troy Brouwer. Ryan or Perry would be horrible additions given their contracts.

Agreed. But if they ate half and took Brouwer it may not be terrible. That said I myself would be disappointed to see either of those two with Calgary unless the pot was sweetend more. Good luck with that though.

[Jason14h]

Anaheim isn't going to rebuild. They are going to give it a few more shots with Getzlaf and Perry.

Sure they go swept, but they were missing there top D. They will add to their roster this offseason, not dismantle

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Anaheim isn't going to rebuild. They are going to give it a few more shots with Getzlaf and Perry.

Sure they go swept, but they were missing there top D. They will add to their roster this offseason, not dismantle

I agree. This is a team that played the 1st half of the year with many key pieces missing due to injury. Still hung in there and once they started getting healthy they cruised on in for a 2nd place finish in the division, which would have been their 6th straight division title if it weren't for Vegas suddenly being gifted a contending team and tossed into our division.

They might retool a bit, but they won't go away any time soon. They are too good at drafting and development and still have many good young pieces on their roster. They will be like San Jose, where as they may have a down year once in a while, but will be a competitive threat for a long long time.