From what I heard, it seemed to go alright. Lots of different teacher emotions from sadness to anger to content. Some students had to learn that a walkout didn’t mean playing soccer outside…so it sounds like everything is in mid season form. Lots of parents and students wearing read though which was nice.
The CBE stressed that today was more for reconnecting. Tomorrow there will be more details regarding next steps.
From downtown, my service unit was informed that if there’s a shortage of teachers due to teachers refusing to return, we’d be redeployed back into schools. But right now it doesn’t look like that will be an issue.
Schools in the NE had abysmal attendance, maybe due to the fact that many families didn’t know the strike was over.
Yes, the unions can’t strike because they could lose their jobs, so the UCP has won. “This is how it ends. Not with a bang, but with a whimper.”
Come back to the conversation when you’re actually willing to do something to stop them or have a solution that doesn’t involve expecting people that you constantly #### on to risk their livelihoods to bail you out of a jam.
Come back to the conversation when you’re actually willing to do something to stop them or have a solution that doesn’t involve expecting people that you constantly #### on to risk their livelihoods to bail you out of a jam.
The unions are in a jam here, and if you can't see that, I have no idea what to tell you. It's naive to think that they took this action with the teachers and that other public sector negotiations will be handled any better.
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I’m just kidding powdrejunkie but I couldn’t resist.
The bolded here is the important piece that a lot of people don’t seem to fully understand. Even teachers and other Union members.
Unions by law have a duty to fairly represent their members. Members engaging in an illegal strike would give their employers just cause for termination. So to avoid any liability for misrepresentation they’re not going to ask their members to participate in an illegal strike without first making them aware of all of the potential repercussions. Once their members realize that they could lose their jobs you’re almost certainly going to see a meaningful drop off in support for that kind of strike action. Support could also be hampered by the charges and legal costs the Union risks facing for the unfair labour practices associated with engaging in an illegal strike, as it could cost a significant amount of money that their members may not be in favour of spending. There are likely some cases where they could even bankrupt locals.
This is why it is so crucial to have the general public supporting Unions. When the government knows voters won’t forgive them for allowing a strike like that to occur and putting tens of thousands of workers at risk of losing their jobs for doing the right thing the government is going to be inclined to avoid doing so or to fix it quickly if they end up in that position. When private businesses know that customers won’t support them if they fire employees for partaking in this type of collective action they are less likely to do so and more likely to put pressure on the government to fix the problem so that their business isn’t affected. Win/win.
When Unions know that voters and customers have their backs they have more leverage to take on these fights with because the lower the risk of job loss the higher the likelihood is that members would be willing to roll the dice.
So if you really want this to happen you’d be best served by starting a public petition stating that the signees will support unions in their fight by committing to not buy products from any businesses that fire employees for supporting this fight and to vote out the UCP if they don’t fix both this problem and the labour code they gutted.
Or you can keep complaining online about Unions getting your hopes up and not doing enough for you in the end…despite someone warning you to not get your hopes up in the first place
Yes I am feeling pretty dismayed - I'm not sure this actually was a positive step forward, because they showed their hand that they envision 'a joyous day or two' or protest...sometime in the 'weeks or months' to come. If I'm the UCP, I'm not feeling concerned about this response at all.
I also think it was probably a mistake to make their boldest 'soundbite' statements so overtly political. Which might sound silly, but isn't that pretty presumptuous on behalf of their members? It's odd to me that they seemed reluctant to make stronger statements about a general strike because they want to run it by membership, but had no problem getting pretty darn specific about toppling the government and attacking Smith. Not that I disagree with any of that personally, but I'm guessing there are plenty of union members who voted UCP and will continue to do so...nevermind the general public. Too much preaching to the converted...IMO it would have been much better to really drill down on the NWC situation
But I am impressed with your crystal ball to know that this "unprecedented response" was going to be a damp squib. It's also an unprecedented opportunity to improve broad support for unions...plenty of keyboard warriors like me think they're pissing it away...but maybe the less politically engaged will somehow see it differently?
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Was happy to see the kids. They had a few questions. Asked if we were legislated back and if we got anything that we wanted.
I had to wing it for a few hours as I didn't get access to my folders and files and accounts back till lunch time. At least I could actually teach something in the afternoon.
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Was happy to see the kids. They had a few questions. Asked if we were legislated back and if we got anything that we wanted.
I had to wing it for a few hours as I didn't get access to my folders and files and accounts back till lunch time. At least I could actually teach something in the afternoon.
So apparently the chief superintendent was saying how there was this one thing in the system, where someone had to manually press a switch for literally every teacher in the system for them to restore access. That’s like 20,000 clicks I hope they fix that for next time.
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It’s this kind of #### that gets to me, I’m a Canadian born Sikh who recently kept his hair, and I can attest that there are a lot of people like him around. The difference I’ve noticed before and after in how I’m generally perceived in public is massive and then when I speak there is a silent gasp - like what you ordered a beer? You can eat here?
Best is out on a smaller bc lake, I was actually asked by someone, got some time off from the petro Canada?
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My son and daughter were both stressed out in different ways. They definitely don't have it as bad as someone with an anxiety disorder. So I can feel bad for you and your daughter but I don't know just how hard it is on you. We just have to deal with a son who gets grumpy and snappy when he's stressed and a daughter who gets emotional and cries. Not easy but I'll take those over what you have to deal with. I hope the rest of school goes well for your daughter.
She got through the day which shows her resilience
I am so proud of her.
Puke and rally!
I deeply appreciate the kind words from you and others
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Come back to the conversation when you’re actually willing to do something to stop them or have a solution that doesn’t involve expecting people that you constantly #### on to risk their livelihoods to bail you out of a jam.
What do you want us to do?
I've written my MLA, I've donated again to NDP, I've texted the resist number and given them my details. My partner canvassed for FC petition. I'm not saying this is anything special, but I've done what I can and I'm ready and willing to do more...
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But I am impressed with your crystal ball to know that this "unprecedented response" was going to be a damp squib. It's also an unprecedented opportunity to improve broad support for unions...plenty of keyboard warriors like me think they're pissing it away...but maybe the less politically engaged will somehow see it differently?
The problem is the keyboard warriors didn’t do any research before anointing their new saviours. Less than half of all Union members in the province are members of the AFL, so as I stated earlier they don’t speak for every Union or their members.
I wasn’t a big fan of their initial announcement because even though I know a well executed general strike would most likely work, at this time I don’t think they have enough support to put on an effective one. I wish that wasn’t the case but it is what it is. Blaming them for pissing away this “opportunity” comes off as a lack of accountability from yourself. These Unions have been standing up to this government for years but no one cared until the government felt emboldened enough to do something this extreme that might eventually be used against them.
Maybe take my advice and take some steps to help change that if you’re as frustrated about it as I am.
It’s this kind of #### that gets to me, I’m a Canadian born Sikh who recently kept his hair, and I can attest that there are a lot of people like him around. The difference I’ve noticed before and after in how I’m generally perceived in public is massive and then when I speak there is a silent gasp - like what you ordered a beer? You can eat here?
Best is out on a smaller bc lake, I was actually asked by someone, got some time off from the petro Canada?
I’m so sorry that happens man. I’m a person of colour too. I taught at a school with a massive Sikh population in the NE and the parents are literally the most wonderful human beings who care about their kids and put a ton of effort into their education, and as a result have well adjusted and unentitled children.
I didn’t run into entitlement issues until I started teaching in the SW that served a much richer demographic. The entitlement came from people who would hurl racist remarks at people in the NE which came from what they learned from their parents.
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Was happy to see the kids. They had a few questions. Asked if we were legislated back and if we got anything that we wanted.
I had to wing it for a few hours as I didn't get access to my folders and files and accounts back till lunch time. At least I could actually teach something in the afternoon.
The sooner the children learn that life is an endless series of disappointments and #### sandwiches the better they'll be prepared for the unmitigated ####storm that is life.
"Did you get anything you wanted?"
Nobody ever gets anything they want. If anyone told you this was going to be 'fair' then they were lying to you.
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