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[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Remember we were told last week that the Dolphins and Texans were finalizing a trade for Deshaun Watson and the trade deadline came and went yesterday and the Texans are going to hold on to him until the offseason. I imagine the Sabres are nearing that timeline.

The Dolphins pulled out because they didn't want to do a deal until the allegations and punishment around Watson were resolved.

To me this would be akin to Vegas or Calgary not wanting to do a deal until the surgery was performed and the health issue was resolved. Doesn't sound like that is the case.

[ThatsRobbery]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Well, "Eichel! Flames! All caps!" Does not equal "The Calgary Flames have Acquired Jack Eichel..."

And why would Pinder be breaking it.

But I can see why your heart might jump for a second.

Yeah seemed more like a fan who wants his team to go get Eichel and is yelling it out loud

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Longest. Yard. EVER.

Must have turned it over on downs?

They didn’t specify which one yard line.

[dammage79]

The last time I was this dead set against a trade before it Happened.... was for Dougie Hamilton.

All of you "Sell the farm for Eichel" folk should rejoice.

[joejoe3]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Longest. Yard. EVER.

Must have turned it over on downs?

[Lanny_McDonald]

Could we be in a situation where all three teams are involved? Monahan ending up in Vegas, with some minor cap retention through Buffalo, but Buffalo getting Brisson from Vegas via Calgary as part of the deal? Conditional picks involved based on games played? That would be really interesting. Something along the lines of...

To Calgary: Eichel

To Vegas: Monahan ($2M retention from Buffalo)

To Buffalo: Valimaki, Zary, Brisson, conditional 1st from Calgary, conditional 2nd from Vegas

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Could we be in a situation where all three teams are involved? Monahan ending up in Vegas, with some minor cap retention through Buffalo, but Buffalo getting Brisson from Vegas via Calgary as part of the deal? Conditional picks involved based on games played? That would be really interesting. Something along the lines of...

To Calgary: Eichel

To Vegas: Monahan ($2M retention from Buffalo)

To Buffalo: Valimaki, Zary, Brisson, conditional 1st from Calgary, conditional 2nd from Vegas

Yeah, I have been wondering about just this for a few weeks now. VGK could sure use an upgrade at centre right now. They were absolutely awful last night.

[manwiches]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Could we be in a situation where all three teams are involved? Monahan ending up in Vegas, with some minor cap retention through Buffalo, but Buffalo getting Brisson from Vegas via Calgary as part of the deal? Conditional picks involved based on games played? That would be really interesting. Something along the lines of...

To Calgary: Eichel

To Vegas: Monahan ($2M retention from Buffalo)

To Buffalo: Valimaki, Zary, Brisson, conditional 1st from Calgary, conditional 2nd from Vegas

I love Monahan. Truly. But if he had to go anywhere, I'd be happy with Vegas. Vegas is another team i do cheer for

[Buff]

Originally Posted by manwiches

I love Monahan. Truly. But if he had to go anywhere, I'd be happy with Vegas. Vegas is another team i do cheer for

You and I are a rare breed. Flames fans AND VGK fans.

[Hack&Lube]

Monahan's stock is quite low at the moment after the last two seasons and surgery. It's unfortunate but teams don't see him as a 30 goal scorer anymore.

Right now they are probably zeroing in on Mangiapane but trading him doesn't help out cap woes since his salary is so low.

Can Lucic actually be waved to the AHL for a time while we move Eichel into LTIR?

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I never thought the Pinder tweet was trolling, but it was a bit of a heart tug during these trying times (and he knows it!)

Isn't that the definition of trolling?
It was light hearted trolling, doesn't bother me, but it certainly was trolling.

[Savvy27]

A three-way trade with Vegas is an interesting idea for sure, but it seems really unlikely to me that Vegas would cooperate in any deal that would send Eichel to a division rival. The Flames are already going to be a tough out in the divisional playoffs and adding Eichel to that task for the next 5 years seems like a bad call.

[Canada 02]

I would suggest Monahan is as risky as Alex Tuch (the rumoured roster player in the Vegas offer) who is in the midst of 6 month rehab from shoulder surgery

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Yeah, I have been wondering about just this for a few weeks now. VGK could sure use an upgrade at centre right now. They were absolutely awful last night.

With the way the Vegas salary situation stacks up, Eichel doesn't make sense. Monahan at $4.375M does. Was working the numbers back and forth, and with the exception of Buffalo making the cap floor, this almost works. Flames have to move $2M to make it work, which could be an administrative assignment of Zadorov to the minors until Eichel is officially on LTIR. I think that works based on what we're moving and bringing in.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Monahan's stock is quite low at the moment after the last two seasons and surgery. It's unfortunate but teams don't see him as a 30 goal scorer anymore.

I don't think any of us have a clue about how teams view Sean Monahan. Over the course of the last few games he sure does look like he is progressing back to his former 25/25 self.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Being concerned about the risk to the degree of not wanting to acquire the player? The Flames doctors have given Tree the green light, so to me it just seems odd that people without actual knowledge of the situation believe it's reason to not acquire a player of this quality.

I'm pretty sure Gary Roberts had much more severe issues than Eichel as it relates to nerve damage compared to the disk problems here. The concern is way overblown with something that is by no means a "risky" procedure, especially when being done on an elite athlete.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Buff

You and I are a rare breed. Flames fans AND VGK fans.

I prefer the word "Mutants."

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

With the way the Vegas salary situation stacks up, Eichel doesn't make sense. Monahan at $4.375M does. Was working the numbers back and forth, and with the exception of Buffalo making the cap floor, this almost works. Flames have to move $2M to make it work, which could be an administrative assignment of Zadorov to the minors until Eichel is officially on LTIR. I think that works based on what we're moving and bringing in.

Agreed. I think the reasons this deal has been taking so damn doing is in part because of Buffalo's intractability, but also because this is going to be a crazy complicated deal when it is finally done. There will need to be a whole bunch of moving parts for them to pull it off.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by joejoe3

Needs Kylington, Darryl and Johnny.

Man I need to come back to the cp photoshop game.

But only if we land Eichel. That's the deal.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Could we be in a situation where all three teams are involved? Monahan ending up in Vegas, with some minor cap retention through Buffalo, but Buffalo getting Brisson from Vegas via Calgary as part of the deal? Conditional picks involved based on games played? That would be really interesting. Something along the lines of...

To Calgary: Eichel

To Vegas: Monahan ($2M retention from Buffalo)

To Buffalo: Valimaki, Zary, Brisson, conditional 1st from Calgary, conditional 2nd from Vegas

Monahan might be the most anti Vegas Knights player in the entire league. I don't see a fit for them to "upgrade" by adding a has been with the footspeed of an elite beer league player and the price tag of a top 6 player.